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It's really not meant to be an independent test of learned material. It's meant to be an aptitude test.
At the point where you’re entering college, how well you’ve mastered and can apply the basic math that SAT tests basically is your mathematical aptitude in the “suitability or fitness” or “likely to succeed at college math/engineering/science/logic” sense of the word.
It is easy to rage against perceived injustice, but maybe this is just a case of "All predictors become bad if they become the target"? In the end the goal of admission processes is to select a certain type of individual. Since some degree of objectivity is needed they created a system that tried to select the desired people based on objectively measurable factors. Maybe a subset of the american asian culture is over…
Whether it's intentional or not, "correct type of person" really does sound like a dog-whistle. TJ, at least, hasn't defined any additional objective measures for said type of person. They are simply lowering the admissions bar to brute-force a reduction of Asians, without describing what quality Asians are supposedly lacking that makes this necessary. It's modern-day systemic racism, but people don't care because it targets a minority that's historically done well for itself.
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To be fair to SamReidHughes, almost none of that can be attributed to the fact that the household is missing a parent. Kids from single-parent households where the missing parent is missing through coincidence, such as by dying in an accident, perform at the same level as kids from two-parent households.
Yeah, attempts to show causality there have fallen down. And single parents aren't some abstract concept either; they largely aren't neglecting their kids.
It's discrimination any way you slice it. You can't lower the bar for one person without raising it for another so long as the class sizes remain the same. If elite universities are about providing education (a valid point of critical contention), then systematically barring Asians from entry is the same class of injustice litigated in Brown v. Board of Education. It's not enough to say you can learn calculus just as…
I'm against affirmative action altogether but the best kind mostly avoids this problem: only consider ethnicity when it helps the application. Consider whites, Asians, Jews, and others as part of the same category.
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You said: > If you make it so that only “merit” is considered - you’re only gonna get rich kids. He said: > The merit-based school such as Styuvesant in NYC and Lowell in SF are both filled with rather poor Asian kids. > The demographic profile of these two schools are substantially lower income than the very expensive cities they reside in. It couldn't possibly be further from supporting what you said.
Since people here are often ESL. I'll put it this way: "English is a rich language." Please try to think about how the context of what I said could be interpreted. If you take literally everything at face value - you're truly not thinking critically about anything .
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> It consisted of going to some Indian dude’s house for an hour every Saturday for a summer. If that’s a game changer what does that say about American K-8 math education? Ironically, this is scouting round a theory I have long espoused – the failure of American K-8 math education has nothing to do with teaching , and everything to do with culture . Sure, going to some Indian dude's house every Saturday for a summer…
I always wondered if these parents raising test ninjas are doing their kids favors. We have google now. I don't need to know the capital of Ukraine - I can just google it. STEM is great to study, but most of the academics in it after 8th grade are not particularity useful. I still haven't been asked to solve a differential equation at work. I have never been asked what school I went to during an interview (i wished t…
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Do you disagree with 99.9999%? What do you think the accuracy would be? Are you actually arguing some banal argument about taxonomic groupings in the edge cases or is it something else, where people can just make up their race? Please explain why a professor had to resign for "lying" about being black: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/professor-who-lied... Please describe the algorithm that makes her non-bla…
>Do you disagree with 99.9999%? What do you think the accuracy would be? I'm unable to come up with a number with a complete lack of evidence that points me towards one. And apparently, neither are you. >Are you actually arguing some banal argument about taxonomic groupings in the edge cases Edge case of _what_? We haven't even figured out where the 'edges' are, or even the centers. You've talked about 'objective sen…
Strange, most black guys could.
I attended TJ, back when it was about 30% Asian. I’ve always felt like the school should do more to get more underrepresented minorities. I’ve found the recent efforts very off-putting however. It’s based on a modern strain of social justice ideology that adopts some very ugly assumptions about Asians. I’m reminded of Alison Collins in San Francisco, who called Asians “house n—-ers” and said they use “white supremaci…
Wow I resemble that remark, down to the part about the Indian dude's house. We didn't have a few thousand dollars to spend though, we just photocopied practice tests and worked on the same test together.
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> As to what might work I would consider medicine or genetic augmentation maybe? you're a fucking nazi freak, foh with this Mengele shit
If there was an injection that made you less criminal, are you saying it should not be mandated? I fully agree.
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If there was an injection that made you less criminal, are you saying it should not be mandated? I fully agree.
Higher testosterone has been linked to more violent crimes. Would you propose that high testosterone individuals be mandated to receive shots to reduce testosterone?