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Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by jjice »

ren_engineer wrote: post #404
nickjj wrote: post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

the fact it isn't optional is the biggest red flag, why not just let channels choose if they want to show dislikes?

Absolutely. This is exactly the kind of thing that creators should be able to opt-in to, just like disabling comments. Very disappointed to see this shielding of everyone's eyes from videos. If a creator wanted to opt to hide it, sure, but flat out hiding it is unfortunate.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by truly »

I am really just starting out my channel, so I am not sure I really understand what is the (real) purpose of this change. A dislike hurts somewhat, but it is unavoidable this to happen when you have a large public. I have not seen dislike attacks (not to say they don't exist), but I'm pretty sure they can be avoided with other tactics.

I suspect that not showing the dislikes drives up engagement, but in my experience as a user I rarely look at the number of dislikes to judge a video.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by cruano »

m0llusk wrote: post #564
prvc wrote: post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

That isn't what they said at all. They are talking about actual attacks where a group of people share their objections to a video and encourage everyone to click on dislike. Do you really think that this kind of group objection should be sponsored and enabled?

The same happens with all those like-for-like groups instead it's the other direction and they don't bat an eye there

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by crackercrews »

Zamicol wrote: post #461
crackercrews wrote: post #437

Any chance we can make a browser extension that registers votes of and shows vote counts for installed users? Google would fight it. But we could always side-load if they do.

I'd be interested in helping if anyone is working on a project. I'd also like to see this done web-wide.

It would also be great to have an extension that does a twitter search on the current URL. It could run automatically every time you load the page or just run when you click it.

And the results could be limited to people you follow/follow you or all results. Just a nice way to see what people are talking about.

Not sure this belongs in the same extension. But both are manual fixes for social media problems.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by crackercrews »

Spivak wrote: post #555
crackercrews wrote: post #431

This is like Amazon letting anyone review a product, but only showing you how many 5-star reviews there are. Completely useless.

The usefulness of data depends on its quality. If people are submitting lots of thoughtful 1-star reviews then yeah, it's a stupid move. But if when you looked at 1-star reviews, and they were basically the junk ramblings of trolls then you might get a better signal of quality buy just ignoring them.

Viewers can judge for themselves whether the downvotes are signal or noise. For me, it's been a clear signal.

And this move is a clear signal also, of whose pocket Google are in.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by ernst_10 »

m0llusk wrote: post #564
prvc wrote: post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

That isn't what they said at all. They are talking about actual attacks where a group of people share their objections to a video and encourage everyone to click on dislike. Do you really think that this kind of group objection should be sponsored and enabled?

So criticism and encouraging people to consider the criticism? What is wrong with that?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by jjice »

The like:dislike ratio is so important when picking a tutorial video. If I see a video on replacing my headlights has an awful ratio, I'm going to save myself the time and find a different video. YouTube has been disappointing me for years now, mostly with their hiding of things. Subscriptions don't work the same as they used to and recommended videos take precedence over everything else.

The issue is that it's so critical to learning these days, and so much of the entertainment I consume comes from it. Can't say I'm surprised though. Social media has it's positives and enjoyable properties, but in the end, they will manipulate the platform in the most fiscally advantageous way.

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