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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by naikrovek »

nicce wrote: post #440
k12sosse wrote: post #422

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Windows professional for professionals. Windows home for grandparents. Always has been this way. I'm ok with that. The tiers of OS have different requirements and features. Expected.

I think this should not be related for OS tiers. Every user should have possibility to use different accounts on their computer, and to adjust permission levels of them and choose which one to connect to MS account. One could be sceptical that with admin account required for MS account, telemetry collection and applying some other kind of restrictions is much easier to target the vast majority of the users.

where does it say that only MS accounts can be used or that you can only use one user account on the machine?

if you want to use a local account, USE ONE.

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Post by ziml77 »

polskibus wrote: post #334

I hope embedding Teams will lead to antitrust like IE did. This is basically making everyone use Teams and will cut out a lot of competitors and other companies who have some form of collaboration built-in into their product.

Just like everyone is using OneDrive, Edge, and Bing?

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Post by naikrovek »

torgoguys wrote: post #492
mdiesel wrote: post #447

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If you do accidentally connect to a network, before you realise this, there's no way to get it to forget. Rebooting doesn't work. The only solution I found was walking 30m away to the other side of the parking lot out of range of WiFi.

Start the install over from scratch. You can have wifi enabled when installing. Just don't plug in a network cable and don't connect to a wifi network when it prompts you to. Read carefully, you can avoid connecting and if you do you don't connect, you don't have to use a Microsoft account.

Shift+F10 is your friend at installation time.

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Post by naikrovek »

symlinkk wrote: post #192
mpfundstein wrote: post #189

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just get Pro

No. Why am I paying a company more money to fix a problem they caused? I think I’ll just get a Mac.

why should I pay more for a luxury car when the SAME MANUFACTURER makes low-end cars, too?

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Post by kaptain »

I tried switching to Windows about 2 years ago from macOS. I found that the lack of a good replacement for Preview was a real deal breaker for me. I tried a lot of different things to make it work. It wasn't the only thing, but the fact that I spent so much time finding a PDF viewer/light-editor that didn't have adware, was free, and had enough functionality was difficult (in my case I was unsuccessful) on Windows. Hopefully they'll include a great PDF viewer/editor. Making PDF ubiquitous on macOS was a real smart move.

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Post by canadianfella »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #524
pram wrote: post #76

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You can install software on Windows and MacOS outside of the app stores jfyi

But more and more applications can only be installed through the app stores on those platforms. That's the issue.

Why?

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Post by imbnwa »

rhengles wrote: post #146
_benj wrote: post #49

I honestly was expecting more "innovation", more daring decisions and deep convictions that "this new way", even though it might get some backlash, will prove to improve the wellbeing of it's users, even if they don't know it yet. I haven't seen anything like that since the days of Steven Jobs and it kind of saddens me. Have we reached a plateau in tech? Are we just up for making more of the same, just a little diffe…

They tried that with Windows 8, the backslash was so enormous that I think they will be on the safe side and stick with 'familiarity' for the foreseeable future.

Win8 re-design was completely unrequested, most people hailed Win7 as the best Win UI iteration. Win 8 was a desperate, unguided attempt to make the Win UI fit on tablets, which failed, hence the full-screen "Start screen"

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Post by zeusk »

Aerroon wrote: post #239
kleiba wrote: post #226

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I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

> As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. It's usually an option that's hidden away. It's definitely there if you disconnect the computer from the network when you install the OS. Also, if you want the old type display drivers instead of DCH you'd have to do that. Otherwise Windows will automatically downlo…

The whole point of DCH iirc was to decouple the rendering and display engine driver from the User/Control/Config interface.

This would basically allow Dell/Hp/Surface to use the same latest Intel/Nvidia/AMD drivers but have their differentiation and config apps updated on their own schedule while the OS takes care of the actual driver components.

so that's a feature not a bug.

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Post by _coveredInBees »

kaptain wrote: post #575

I tried switching to Windows about 2 years ago from macOS. I found that the lack of a good replacement for Preview was a real deal breaker for me. I tried a lot of different things to make it work. It wasn't the only thing, but the fact that I spent so much time finding a PDF viewer/light-editor that didn't have adware, was free, and had enough functionality was difficult (in my case I was unsuccessful) on Windows. H…

I'm the opposite. I can't believe that Finder is the best Apple can do for a file explorer. It is an absolute abomination and after 4 years of using my MBP I still hate it passionately every time I have to use it.

I agree that preview is nice, as is Spotlight. But for me, OSX is getting too locked down at this point as a "power user". The sandbox makes apps take obscenely long to open like as if I've been teleported to the 90s with spinning disk laptop hard drives. A bunch of useful preview extensions all broke with Catalina's latest efforts to lock things down more and more. I hate how many hoops you are forced to jump through to get any non appstore app to get installed.

I thought OSX + MBP would be a solid and stable experience but I've been plagued by a well known kernel panic based error very frequently when I plug into a dock, resulting in hard reboots.

I'm definitely going to switch back to Windows with my next laptop. I'm sure there will be things I will miss, but OSX hasn't lived up to my expectations. I do most of my work on an Ubuntu box via VNC/SSH, and the lack of CUDA support makes the MBP kinda useless for prototyping ML/DL stuff as well.

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Post by II2II »

josteink wrote: post #451
michaelbrave wrote: post #443

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> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all? This is a dealbreaker for me, guess I won't be upgrading and will use linux most of the time instead of half of the time going forward

Just out of curiosity, what part do you find troublesome? TPM, UEFI or both? And why?

It can be the consequence of the hardware someone owns. As an example: my desktop is from 2012 and its performance does not justify its replacement.
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