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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by as-j »

bamboozled wrote: post #560
thereisnospork wrote: post #543

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>Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen. I say build a trebuchet on deck and start launching containers into the desert.

Would it not be easier to use Chinooks to remove cargo ?

This thing could have 20,000 containers on it. Thankfully it’s a 3rd of a mile long, so maybe you could offload 2 at a time, one helicopter on either end. At 1 container every 5 minutes....working 24 hours per day....that’s 70 days of work.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by KptMarchewa »

michaelt wrote: post #268
leesec wrote: post #63

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Dumb question but what about heavy lift helicopters moving containers off 1 by 1?

It has 20,000 TEUs (twenty-foot-container-equivalent-units). Weight-wise, the average container could be lifted with a military heavy lift helicopter: The ship carries 20,000 tons, i.e. 1 ton per TEU, and a CH-47F can lift 11 tons. Although a TEU can weigh up to 26 tons, so you couldn't lift the heaviest ones. The problem is speed: A ship-to-shore crane at a properly equipped port can do a lift every 2 minutes. Ports…

Why is everyone assuming that we can do only one container at once? The ship is long, at least few can be done in parallel.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by 1propionyl »

mynameishere wrote: post #540
jacob2484 wrote: post #456

Quite the arrogance here of mostly software devs trying to out -solutionize marine/shipping experts who undoubtedly have been consulted and are already looking for the quickest way to resolve the situation. With billions of dollars in stake, I'm sure even the most expensive experts are involved.

Is it totally implausible that ordinary intelligent people might have some ideas better than "put some tug boats on one end, and a single backhoe on the other end"? Because that's what your expensive experts have come up with so far. For my brilliant idea: Announce that everything on the ship is free, including the ship itself, and watch all the ragamuffins of Egypt strip it to nothing in a day.

Ah yes, the solution isn't to consult experts, but to step back and expect racist stereotypes to solve the problem!

Brilliant!

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by VRay »

sjg007 wrote: post #534
atdt wrote: post #174

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It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.

This is how every post and comment works on HN.

It's pretty great. I hope this serves as a lesson to some people

"If these jokers will talk this much about this even though they clearly know nothing at all about the tech involved, what does that say about their comments on all the other threads here?"

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Post by ryankrage77 »

gizmo385 wrote: post #181
eCa wrote: post #165

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If I understand [1] properly, the Chinook can lift 13 tons[2]. The Evergiven's maximum weight is 200000 tons. So that would be 15000+ Chinooks lifting it. A sight to behold. Added: Only about 1200 were ever produced, so that won't fly. [1] https://www.army.mil/article/137584/ch_47_chinook_helicopter [2] 26000 pounds

I desperately want someone to photoshop this.

Perhaps mention it to Wren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZsp1tgXkUI

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by anderspitman »

lmilcin wrote: post #568
thereisnospork wrote: post #543

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>Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen. I say build a trebuchet on deck and start launching containers into the desert.

There are 20 thousand containers on that ship. No, that's not a mistake. It says it can carry 20 thousand and I assume it travels at capacity. Even if you could somehow launch one every minute that would still take 2 weeks of non-stop bombardment. Fascinating how much stuff you can put on a ship and the scale of loading/unloading operation.

Huh, a case where using kubernetes is actually justified.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by avs733 »

bamboozled wrote: post #560
thereisnospork wrote: post #543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen. I say build a trebuchet on deck and start launching containers into the desert.

Would it not be easier to use Chinooks to remove cargo ?

Empty weight of a 40ft ISO is around 3,700kg Max weight of a container loaded is around 30,000kg

Max payload of a Chinook around 11,000 kg near sea level at not high temp. (correct my number here from the wrong version of the Chinook...older versions were 4,500kg)

So, if your container is a a quarter full, sure

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by kristofferR »

nabakin wrote: post #564

A bit off-topic but I think worth noting. The VesselFinder map on this website is incredibly smooth and responsive! Every time I open up Google Maps, I feel how bloated it is despite running on the Pixel 5, Google's very own latest flagship device! It seems to me Google doesn't care much about Maps' performance if I feel more comfortable navigating maps using some random, web embed. After looking around the embed a b…

It's using OpenLayers.

https://openlayers.org/

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