What happened to Silicon Valley? Just a few years ago, something like this would have triggered libertarian-leaning outrage, especially on HN. Remember the vigorous defenses on here of Backpage? Suddenly everyone’s clutching their pearls and cheering bans that are increasingly broad and unfocused.
Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
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#572The lesson for today:
Anything that you entrust to somebody else is no longer yours.
When a social medium or a cloud service shows that it is more powerful than the sitting President of the US, something is seriously wrong.
Forget Putin. Trump, Biden, and all of Congress are Bezos and Zuckerberg's bitches.
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#573To all the HN users drawing a false equivalency between Parler and Twitter checkout /r/parlerwatch . There is a significant difference between the average severity, duration, and support, for posts that suggest, encourage, and especially plan, domestic terrorism.
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#574Any company that decides to stick its toe into content moderation has a job that is, IMO, completely impossible and will receive backlash no matter what they do. Moderating content in a manner they find acceptable is one thing, but moderating content in a way to make sure that everyone finds it acceptable is simply not possible and is only polarizing everyone.
I don't think social media was intended to become the new Town Hall, but here are, and private companies are shutting down discussions and discussion platforms. We need to shoot for federated social media that actually owned and ran by the user, not by a separate company. I don't trust any government with moderating speech, but I trust companies even less (they were not elected to).
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#575This is an incredibly sort timeframe to expect someone to be able to migrate off AWS. If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly, but if they are tied into more than a couple of AWS specific services like Route 53 or Lambda then a migration is a big ask.
> If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly
It's only a matter of time before software updates are used for deplatforming too.
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#576America has become the nation of instant justice. Allegations are not evidence are not proof. We are witnessing a mass lynching.
> Allegations are not evidence are not proof.
I don't see what this has to do with the business relationship between Parler and AWS. AWS alleges Parler broke their terms of service, had no realistic plan to come into compliance, and was not really committed to coming into compliance based on the public statements of their CEO. So they kicked them off AWS.
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#578I think the best plan of action is creating a new decentralized free speech platform, as resilient as a cockroach, blockchain or scihub. I’ve sent a message to sama & pg asking to add this to the YC list of ‘requests for startups’. I hope they hear. For those lurking, this is a tremendous opportunity and real need as you have half the country desperate to let their voice be heard while being aggressively silenced and…
It seems this isn't something that Silicon Valley even thinks is a problem, and that is a very big problem.
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#579Finally "Fediverse" will now become a household word!
Applications like Mastodon, Pleroma, and the platform I'm developing myself (https://quanta.wiki) can now hopefully gain enough traction to replace the monopoly Social Media services.
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#580To some degree I think this is what they (Parler) wanted, it creates press and attention for them. It's free advertising. Whether it be hosting your domain with GoDaddy or your servers with Amazon, you would have to be incompetent to not believe this would be a likely outcome.