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2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Post by windexh8er »

testfoobar wrote: post #552
majormunky wrote: post #543

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Firefox has something like this called containers. The best example is one for facebook, where any call to any facebook servers only works in the facebook container. It has similar setups as well, Work, Home, Commerce, etc.

Not quite the same. I want to set-up and tear-down entire macro groups of windows and tabs while keeping others active. Opening my 'Shopping' profile brings up windows and tabs from where I left off. Same with "Social". When I don't want distractions, I just close those profiles. No notifications, no updates, etc. I like the separation.

Simple Tab Groups [0] + Multi-Account Containers [1] are my workflow for that exact case. Simple Tab Groups hides the tabs based on the group you're in and the Multi Account Containers can keep them segmented from a contextual standpoint.

I can't stand Chrome either and so I've been using these two together for about a year now I believe. Using a naked version of Chrome is jarring given my browser feels like it fits how I use it being setup like this.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr... [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Post by SulfurHexaFluri »

Tagbert wrote: post #183
piyh wrote: post #66

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It bodes really well for future chips with higher power budgets. The Pro seems a bit underwhelming for what it could be though.

That new MacBook Pro replaces the low end of the Pro line which had a slower CPU and only 2 ports. I would expect that, when Apple brings out their next iteration of chips, they would target the higher end of the Pro line with more cores and ports along with higher RAM capacities.

I'm guessing they also want devs of tools like docker to finish porting their software before they switch the rest of the macbooks over.

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Post by romanoderoma »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #428
romanoderoma wrote: post #411

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Photoshop 6, not CS6

The GP said: > MacOS Sierra doesn't even work with Photoshop CS6 I'm not sure where they got that impression, but it definitely works!

I got it from Adobe Web site

> Mac OS X v10.6.8 or v10.7. Adobe Creative Suite 3, 4, 5, CS5.5, and CS6 applications support Mac OS X v10.8 or v10.9 when installed on Intel-based system

They work, maybe, they are not supported though

It means that if it doesn't work, Adobe won't provide any support

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Post by SulfurHexaFluri »

kllrnohj wrote: post #555
pwthornton wrote: post #329

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It looks like it only begins to throttle after 8.5 minutes of sustained high loads — like exporting 4K video. In a lot of day-to-day work that is much more peaks and valleys, you may never see the throttling.

Seeing reddit reports of gaming throttling more quickly than that, which would make sense since the GPU is going to sit at or near 100% pretty easily with a game and you'll still be seeing a decent CPU load.

The macbook air is probably the worst machine you can think of for gaming. Even without the M1 you won't have a great time. Its the perfect machine for students because it can last all day in a browser and word.

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Post by zitterbewegung »

gnicholas wrote: post #558
pwthornton wrote: post #532

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The reviews I saw said that using Chrome gets good better life, but if you want great battery life you need to use something like Safari. I switched to Safari a few years ago, and I couldn't be happier. Chrome's performance and battery life are atrocious. I only use Chrome when I need something specific from it.

I saw that comment in a couple different places. Presumably Chrome is running through Rosetta 2, whereas Safari is native to the M1. I imagine once Chrome is available natively, performance will be somewhat better, though probably still not as good as Safari.

IIRC Chrome is a battery hog / memory hog on all platforms.

Am I wrong in this regard?

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Post by zarkov99 »

stevehawk wrote: post #524
xuki wrote: post #92

Performance per watt of this thing is INSANE, take a look at the battery left after compiling WebKit, compared to older Mac: https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/WebKit-Com... https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/17/yeah-apples-m1-macbook-pro... IMO the all day battery will be THE killer feature of the new laptops.

will it? do people really spend that much time away from an outlet while on their laptop?

Yes. Even at home it's so much nicer to be able take the laptop anywhere without worrying about wires.

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Post by jdeibele »

_djo_ wrote: post #526
jdeibele wrote: post #470

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As I remember, they charged a membership fee for being able to download the whole article as a PDF. It seemed somewhat reasonable that an article that would be passed around the department or on to your boss would require a fee. I can't find any mention of it on their website, though. Am I getting my websites confused or did they drop it altogether?

You're thinking of Ars Technica, I think.

Yes, you're right. Thank you. And they're still doing offering PDF's only to members. Which I don't have a problem with.

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Post by StreamBright »

JAlexoid wrote: post #435
StreamBright wrote: post #384

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Absolutely not. We need more competition because the #1 reason we got to this situation is mono culture and a single platform (x86). We need Apple to succeed of creating an alternative ARM based desktop/laptop platform and for more competition we could add in Mips64 from China to the mix. I am really hoping that by 2025 we are going to have 3 major platforms available for end customers, so that there is real competit…

And where are those chips going to be made? The issue with Intel's dominance is it's complete dominance on the supply side as well. You fail to realize that this isn't like 3D printing, or other low volume manufacturing. You can't just setup a 100nm Si lithography lab in your spare room and churn out RISC-V chips. In 5 years - realistically we will have a few high performance(non-mobile) ARM chips manufactured at eco…

That is a great question. I am not familiar with how much the production of these CPUs are dependent on ASML, TSMC etc. I think think China is kind of forced to have its own supply chain after the Obama era ban on Intel chips in Chinese supercomputers.

https://www.theregister.com/2015/04/10/us_intel_china_ban/

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Post by SulfurHexaFluri »

murukesh_s wrote: post #465
munificent wrote: post #342

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I think that's the right call, honestly. I need to recharge my own wetware at least once a day. So there is a nearly guaranteed several hour idle period where I'm not using any technology and where laptops and phones can be recharging too. I don't see much end user value in not taking advantage of that. It's like if you parked your car literally at a gas station every night anyway. Would you really care about a fuel…

I would want a 2, 3, even 7 day battery. Why not? I don't want to bother about charging every day. But my worry is that with more and more efficiency in computing and battery tech, if Apple instead decides to reduce the battery capacity? Especially with no competition in sight, or competitors trying to follow Apple, we may end up with smaller batteries instead of more battery life. They seems to be doing that with iP…

The problem with multi day battery life is you never get in to a routine and you get caught out every time. I had a pebble watch which had a 10 day battery life and almost every 10th day it would go flat on me mid day or I'd get a warning about low battery while I'm outside and then forget about it when I get home.

Now I have an Apple Watch that lasts almost but not quite 2 days, I charge it every night and it has never gone flat on me and I find it no hassle since I take it off before bed anyway so I just drop it on the charger.

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Post by macintux »

romanoderoma wrote: post #378
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #292

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And that backwards compatibility may not even be necessary, given Rosetta's performance. Sure Apple is using lots of tricks, but if Microsoft or any Linux project could get even somewhat close...

Just as testimony, it probably doesn't mean much, but bakcwards compatibility you either have it or you don't, there's no middle ground Apple is one of the most capitalistic companies out there, they want you to buy new stuff and they'll try everything they can to force users to upgrade sooner or later The story is this: a friend of mine is a well respected illustrator and he has been a long time Mac user (at least s…

> Apple is one of the most capitalistic companies out there, they want you to buy new stuff and they'll try everything they can to force users to upgrade sooner or later

The more charitable view is that by not being wedded to backwards compatibility they can make their ecosystem stronger, faster.

See https://medium.learningbyshipping.com/apples-relentless-stra... for some discussion of those tradeoffs.

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