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Re: The majority of 18- to 29-year-olds in the US are now living with their parents

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Post by user5994461 »

anoonmoose wrote: post #548
irrational wrote: post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they definitely didn't learn it from me or my wife. We both work all the time and barely take time to stop and rest. When they were growing up we would have them work with us on house projects, in the garden, at the food bank, etc. Apparently our work ethic didn't get picked up.

you have 7k comment karma in ~4 years i have 500 in ~7 years and i know i use HN too much you comment on HN multiple times a day and appear to have done that for some time

Let's not judge people for giving attention to Hacker News instead of their wife, or we're all to blame here ;)

Re: The majority of 18- to 29-year-olds in the US are now living with their parents

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Post by alextheparrot »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #527
alextheparrot wrote: post #507

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If the age-in population has a 75% incidence and the age-out population has a 25% incidence it won’t cancel out. The age-in population will be adding a lot more than the age-out will be subtracting.

But if it wasn't canceled out by something then this number would be rising forever, and that something ought to be people between 18 and 30 moving out, and if you suppose that most people planning to move out have postponed their plans due to COVID, then the situation doesn't look that grim.

That’s a fair hypothesis, which would result in a different interpretation of what the overall trend means. I was narrowly speaking to the discussion on the cohort age boundary, which is a valid observation from my perspective.

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Post by renewiltord »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #137
save_ferris wrote: post #42

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I think it’s cultural. American society absolutely looks down on those that live with their parents as failures. If I were to guess, some parents might see their children asking to return home as a reflection on their ability as a parent to prepare for the “real world”, but that’s just my guess.

Only a certain vocal rich segment of American society.

Nah, rich people boost their kids through life. Poor people are the ones who subscribe to Labour Theology: Hard Work is Righteous, Assisting Kids Ruins Them.

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Post by beaunative »

irrational wrote: post #480

My 21 and 23 year old daughters have moved back in with us. They stay up until the wee hours of the morning watching streaming media, then wake up mid afternoon to get on social media, eat dinner with us and then repeat. I can't wait till they leave. At least when they are living on their own I don't have to know about their bad habits.

I don't know about your life, so I maybe entirely wrong, but them watching streaming media and browsing social media may not be productive but is also probably not the worst thing to do. That maybe the only way for them to connect with their peers, any other topics to talk about are just chaos, to be honest. 21 and 23 maybe adults, but they shouldn't be blamed just for being a bit lost in the current state of affairs, at least, IMHO.

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Post by koolba »

anoonmoose wrote: post #548
irrational wrote: post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they definitely didn't learn it from me or my wife. We both work all the time and barely take time to stop and rest. When they were growing up we would have them work with us on house projects, in the garden, at the food bank, etc. Apparently our work ethic didn't get picked up.

you have 7k comment karma in ~4 years i have 500 in ~7 years and i know i use HN too much you comment on HN multiple times a day and appear to have done that for some time

Based on my own experience, the hardest working people are also the best at efficiently procrastinating.

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Post by MattGaiser »

babelfish wrote: post #393
dcolkitt wrote: post #246

> Housing is more expensive for them than prior generations I harp on this constantly. But housing is not more expensive in the majority of American metros. Adjusted for inflation the median cost per square foot of new housing is almost exactly the same as it was in 1990. (This doesn't even take into account that mortgage rates are drastically lower since then.) We get skewed on this for two reasons. One is because h…

> Two is that we're highly skewed to a handful of elite metros, whose housing markets are not representative of the country as a whole Right, but what matters is the housing price where people are. It doesn't matter what the housing market looks like in South Dakota if I don't want to live there. While houses in South Dakota may be 1/10 the price of houses in NYC (likely cheaper, honestly), they also have 1/10 the po…

> if I don't want to live there.

But then you are choosing to be poorer. And that can be a valid choice, but it is a choice you are making.

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Post by irrational »

scarmig wrote: post #551
irrational wrote: post #480

My 21 and 23 year old daughters have moved back in with us. They stay up until the wee hours of the morning watching streaming media, then wake up mid afternoon to get on social media, eat dinner with us and then repeat. I can't wait till they leave. At least when they are living on their own I don't have to know about their bad habits.

Not to dig too deeply into a single example, but... what should they be doing? Are they employed or in school? If not, what is your expectation of what they should be doing? I agree that if they're living with you, they should probably be doing chores, cooking, and getting some exercise in. But if they're financially constrained and have nothing to do, futzing about on the Internet and social media isn't a particular…

Basically what you said, helping out around the house, cooking, helping younger siblings with their school work, etc. Everywhere I go there are help wanted signs, but neither displays any interest in seeking employment (even though they both could really use the money). Both are on a hiatus from school right now.

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Post by throwawayinfo »

johnfn wrote: post #539
laurent92 wrote: post #512

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> how many parents fail to understand the emotional and mental situation of what their children are currently experiencing. This is crucial to understanding: - The immediate distress of young males. They have no chance of seducing externally if they don’t have moral support at home. Explains the billion of 9Gag posts about young people who fall addicted to gaming and joke about virginity and lack of self confidence,…

This is really well put. Would love to read more if you have more resources in this vein.

+1 - I see this around me all the time.

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Post by dang »

dcolkitt wrote: post #246

> Housing is more expensive for them than prior generations I harp on this constantly. But housing is not more expensive in the majority of American metros. Adjusted for inflation the median cost per square foot of new housing is almost exactly the same as it was in 1990. (This doesn't even take into account that mortgage rates are drastically lower since then.) We get skewed on this for two reasons. One is because h…

(We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24491909.)

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Post by matthewheath »

lol768 wrote: post #332
_jxdz wrote: post #318

I earn more than my family or my peers earn, but living in London often feels like my money comes in and goes out again immediately. As a result, I currently live with my family in an extraordinarily nice house that I would never be able to afford myself. I pay them a nominal sum for rent; they refuse to take the market rate even though I am happy to pay it... I look at the rental cost of a standard 1 bedroom flat in…

> It would be cheaper to get a mortgage, but I fail the "affordability" tests I naively thought that these affordability tests would involve looking at whether my take home income minus my monthly costs was higher than the monthly cost of the mortgage. That sounds like a reasonable definition of "affordable", right? We can account for increases in interest rates too. In reality, the amount of ridiculous hoops that ne…

Yes, I had similarly naive thoughts about that too. They want ludicrous sums for the deposit in my case, and also I haven't worked at my company for more than a year at the moment so I failed that too.

At this rate, I'm considering moving out of London to somewhere else (perhaps with fibre internet), renting be damned.

As an aside: how strange that we have a number of mutual professional connections (couldn't help but check out your GitHub).

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