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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I'm torn on headphone jack. It feels very antiquated to dedicate a single large port to analog audio signals where USB can pretty much do anything.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by marrone12 »

adameast9000 wrote: post #530
ihuman wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses FaceID works with and without my glasses. I can't remember if it learned this automatically, or if I added it as an "alternative appearance." Does the Pixel 4 have any options like that?

FaceID works with my regular glasses but some of my sunglasses do not work at all (0% unlock rate with over 100 attempts in various lighting). I think it may depend on the shape of the frame and how much of your face it takes up? Not sure.

There is an option inside of face id settings that says "require attention". This basically means it looks for your actual pupils to unlock. if you turn this off then sunglasses will start to work, as well as off angle unlocks without sunglasses.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dkonofalski »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I disagree on the headphone jack. I haven't missed it at all since buying an iPhone 7, especially with AirPods.

I do, however, agree whole-heartedly about the form factor. The iPhone 5 was the perfect form-factor to me and I miss it terribly.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ken »

youeseh wrote: post #29

If the new one would have kept the design of the old one but added a full screen and updated cameras - that would have been perfect. I get the feeling that I'm part of a large niche with whom the old iPhoneSE saw success by accident.

> success by accident

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be uncommon for a company (even Apple) to hit a home run and not understand why it was so successful. And then they're unable to follow up on it.

HyperCard still appears in top-10 lists of "greatest software ever" -- and it's usually the only one which is no longer maintained and doesn't have a modern equivalent.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by 333c »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #481
333c wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, I prefer the 4" screen but I can handle a slightly bigger screen. Touch ID is a must and I'm glad they kept it. But the loss of the headphone jack will be bad, so I'll stick with my current SE as long as it's supported.

> so I'll stick with my current SE as long as it's supported. Seems to me you can assume that’s about to end.

This article[0] from MacRumors in January seems to indicate all iPhones currently supported by iOS 13 will be supported by iOS 14.

[0]: https://9to5mac.com/2020/01/26/ios-14-devices-rumor/

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by throwaway123x2 »

oops wrote: post #541
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

The Palm Phone[1] looks pretty cool and certainly ticks the compact box. It's almost enough to make me consider Android but I'll probably just keep using old SE until it dies. 1: https://palm.com/products/palm-unlocked

oo this is fantastic. Def gonna keep it in mind when I'm ready to change phones.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

McTossOut wrote: post #314
radec wrote: post #246

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except that 4.7" is not exactly compact

The main reason I haven't dumped my XZ2 Compact for a Palm Palm is my paranoia around owning a Chinese designed device. Largely the same story for those waves of Android Lollipop "smart watches". I'm very unhappy with the market for mobiles, it seems manufacturers have no balls, and are clueless about what I want / sensitive to what carriers are willing to sell en masse. In a phrase, the stupid shitty financing optio…

A lot of decent smaller phones are available in the developing world. The silliness is the market segmentation with frequency band restrictions that could all be handled in firmware.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by sequoia »

According to this: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE2ndgen...

This looks like basically the same phone as the 8 & the 6s. I own a 6s, I'm wondering what the advantage is to buying this phone rather than replacing the battery on my current phone.

Hilariously, some of the changes between models seem to be mostly renaming features.

    6s: HDR for photos
     8: Auto HDR for photos
    SE: Next-generation Smart HDR for photos
Looks like this one "goes to 11"

Also funny is battery life:

    SE: Lasts about the same as iPhone 8
     8: Lasts about the same as iPhone 7
     7: Lasts up to 2 hours longer than iPhone 6s
    6s: —
So the new SE lasts about the same as two hours longer than "—" Got it!

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by outworlder »

wiremine wrote: post #397
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.

> I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11

You don't miss it until you do. When you are trying to join a meeting and your bluetooth headset absolutely refuses to work (and yes, even the fancy Airpods Pro do that occasionally), you wish you had the ability to just plug in an old-fashioned, analog headset. Which you can pull easily, with no fuss, from many devices, including computers and gaming consoles. Quick, no pairing required. No battery issues.

Analog headphones are also very cheap(good if you are not in a rich country), and will always be cheaper than bluetooth headphones, as there is minimal hardware required. You can quickly pick one up even from a shady street seller and you know it will work(longevity might suffer, but again, cheap).

The only problem with the headphone jack is that it is a very old standard. It's big connector, and takes significant real state inside a phone.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ttizya20 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

Complete BS 'cons', this product is great, admit it. 1. airpods you peasant 2. my hands are f*king huge anyways this phone is still probably too small 3. already donated to Covid research without going through a corporation, I'll take white.
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