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U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers

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Martha Stewart, before she was a star, worked as a stockbroker and knew or should have known what she did was wrong.

Could be, but they didn’t get her on anything related stock trading and instead got her for “lying”. My point is, even if they are unable to catch them red handed (you’d have to be inept), ghetto can always find alternative methods to find someone guilty.

Is your position that lying to federal investigators is okay and should not be punished?

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Not the person giving birth but the progeny. Most countries ~164 out of 194) are jus sanguinis (you inherit nationality of parent(s)) we are one of the exceptions with jus soli. We even have “birth tourism” taking advantage of our liberal policy.

Jus soli is a civil rights issue. Jus sanguinis has led to many cases of intergenerational oppression. Giving up jus soli would be like giving up the Civil Rights Act.

Jus soli was a hack, applied to force southern states to stop being terrible to former slaves in the wake of the Dredd Scott decision. That doesn’t make it intrinsically a civil rights issue. It makes it a tool used to solve a civil rights issue. The civil rights issue itself can and (IMO) should be solved directly, and be a separate conversation from that of what constitutes nationality.

IMO jus soli doesn’t make sense as your place of birth doesn’t make you intrinsically any more or less of a given nationality. Living somewhere does, being part of a society does, etc. I’d prefer birthright permanent residency for instance - you can claim PR any time, and if you live in the country for 3/5 years you can petition for citizenship like anyone else.

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And if you're in IT consulting like me instead of a software engineer, you absolutely should not cheer every immigrant. Many people wrongly assume that most H1B visas go to truly high-skilled individuals working at large tech companies. This is not the case. Take a look at the numbers in [1]. The top 5 companies bringing H1B workers are doing so specifically to outsource IT functions at lower cost than US workers. Th…

My personal experience working with visa workers at multiple organizations is that many organizations do indeed use them as de-facto indentured servants. One visa worker got paid only once every 6 months. He tolerated it because complaining could get him sent back home. (It did cover his full pay, though.) The claim H1B's are being used to "relieve labor shortages" is mostly untrue. I disagree with a good many polici…

Note that Bernie Sanders has a similar position on this issue.

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I've worked with a few H1-B holders in Silicon Valley and they're awesome. A great improvement would be to allow H1B holders to change jobs easily (maybe after a year). It's too easy for them to get stuck in not great situations. It would be great for everyone if they could move to better fitting jobs, especially for startups who have trouble running H1-B programs. If you are, like me, a software engineer, you should…

And if you're in IT consulting like me instead of a software engineer, you absolutely should not cheer every immigrant. Many people wrongly assume that most H1B visas go to truly high-skilled individuals working at large tech companies. This is not the case. Take a look at the numbers in [1]. The top 5 companies bringing H1B workers are doing so specifically to outsource IT functions at lower cost than US workers. Th…

The startups I've worked for, co created with coworkers who had H1-B visas (and green cards) created a lot of IT consulting gigs. We might even have hired you. This is as we went from 40 to 400 employees. Those H1-B visa holders created gigs for you to work. Even the consulting gigs you are competing for and losing are creating more consulting gigs later on. You are counting those right?

It's not simple, your intuition gained from media stories is not correct. You should instead read what economists say, they usually find that native wages and jobs are increased by immigrants.

Just think about how many dumb stories the media writes about stuff you actually do understand. Like - is your usual biggest project risk really hacking? Nope, it's the 50% chance a software project won't succeed at all.

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Honestly this is a good thing. Right now the H1B is a bullshit immigration program for cheap engineers from India and China designed to depress wages in silicon valley. A change is sorely needed, this is not big enough but it's definitely a step.

This is discrimination, and nothing to celebrate. People without degrees deserve equal treatment. People who want to work lower-paid jobs deserve equal treatment.

Disagree, a country has the right to determine what kind of immigrants it prefers. People with in demand skills should have preference over those without. Nobody has a right (except in certain rare circumstances such as asylum) to immigrate to another country. H1s specifically are employment visas. The country shouldn’t take in for employment a bunch of people it doesn’t need should it?

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SF is an outlier compared to London. From expatistan.com: Monthly rent for 85 m2 (900 Sqft) furnished accommodation in NORMAL area: SF: $3,663 (£2,789) London: £1,766 Difference: 58%

Worth noting that the difference there is exaggerated somewhat by the unusually low value of the pound at the moment.

The unusualness of the pound is about 10%, +/- the usual variations, isn’t it?

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What does a quota matter when you have other real effective restrictions. Also, I’m for immigration where we have proven needs. I don’t agree with flooding the market and depressing wages for average workers. PhDs, sure, rare skills, sure. Or, let’s put it this way, would you be in favor we took Japan’s immigration system part and parcel and implemented it as they have?

Back up. You cite Japan as a strict immigration program (they have no caps, quotas and are actively recruiting foreigners and changing laws to make immigration more attractive), China (a totalitarian ethnostate actively placing a portion of the population in labor camps), South Africa (struggling with the fallout of apartheid) and Korea (I don’t know enough to comment) as your prime examples of tough immigration poli…

All of the these countries have universal healthcare and stronger better labor laws. I have spent a lot of time in Canada. They have generous social programs and Unions there are doing very well.

The United States puts American workers at a unique disadvantage to immigrants because there isn't much of a social safety net. It ends up a race to the bottom for cheaper disposable labor.

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No, wealth inequality increased because we stopped taxing rich people.

Wealth inequality has increased mostly due to the massive expansion of the global economy, which was a large benefit to capital owners and was a detriment to US labor (whose wages were artifically very high in the post WW2 decades). Global labor competed, capital benefited. Federal Reserve policies since ~1970 have also overwhelmingly favored capital, asset holders, and not workers. The US tax code has gotten more pr…

> The US tax code has gotten more progressive over time, not less

your math is way off because your're mixing nominal, ordinal, interval and ratio[1]

e.g. ten people in econony 9 poorest make $100/year 1 richest makes $200/year

poor tax rate: 5% rich tax rate: 20%

rich pay 42% of taxes 40 / (40 + 45)

now, lower tax rates on the rich and at the same time his income explodes (what's actually happened since early 1980's)

1 richest person makes $1000/yr rich man tax rate 15% rich pay 76% of all taxes (150 / (150 + 45)), which is much higher than before (your progressive argument)

but you claim that tax rates have become more progressive, when in fact and in example above they have become more regressive.

[1] https://www.mymarketresearchmethods.com/types-of-data-nomina...

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Are you sure ? Increasing the masters quota for H1B will worsen things. Here is why. A majority of Masters degree holders in the US are those students who couldn't crack the basic campus recruitment in India for software companies during their Bachelors. So they take a stab at it once more by investing in a masters degree in US which increases their H1B lottery chances. I am not generalizing all the masters degree ho…

Do you have any data to back this claim up?

See the LCA filings data from DOL.

Source: https://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm

Goto Disclosure Tab & Download the H-1B_FY2018.xlsx excel. Filter NJ state and Employer City as Edison.

If there was no market for Masters H1B with fake experiences on their resumes, these thriving bodyshops wont exist.

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As an immigrant from India, who worked in the US on H1B, I welcome this change, because this increases the chances of weeding out the bad apples and increases the chances for the good ones to get an H1b visa. This at least encourages genuine direct employers to hire those who have already contributed to the US economy (by paying out of state tuition which funds/subsidizes the university education of US resident/citiz…

> give H1b to every applicant who has graduated in the US Agreed. I studied in the US, wasn't even applying for jobs and had job offers. But, I didn't have work authorization so I couldn't take them. I went back to Canada for years before I was able to get back again. I'm not mad, but the system could definitely be improved for those who are qualified. If we're going to compete with China, Russia, India, etc we have…

True. I'm not mad with US immigration issues either.

It's more like I feel sad for the country, which has such potential, and they are missing out on having high skilled immigrants live and pay taxes in the US.

Since I'm fed up with US permanent residency process (as an India born person, there's no point in applying), I'm working remote from outside US, as a contractor with a US company and paying Canada taxes (I almost bought a house in the US, before I decided to get a Canada PR. US's loss, Canada's gain).

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