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Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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Sure... but that probability is equally present in the non memory-safe language, so that doesn't change anything.

I've yet to learn a language where not handling exceptional cases properly did not result in a bug.

The point is not the absence of bugs. In a memory safe language, usually a bug doesn't lead in leaking the content of freed memory.

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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Step 1) MITM the entire Internet, undermining its SSL infrastructure, build a business around it Step 2) leak cleartext from said MITM'd connections to the entire Internet I recently noted that in some ways Cloudflare are probably the only entity to have ever managed to cause more damage to popular cryptography since the 2008 Debian OpenSSL bug (thanks to their "flexible" ""SSL"" """feature"""), but now I'm certain o…

They also actively deter Tor use. I've cancelled subscriptions with Cloudflare-hosted sites because they make securely and anonymously browsing their sites a pain.

I'm running a side-project on Cloudflare and it's accessible through Tor without problems. I suspect this comes down to the settings a site owner sets up in their Cloudflare interface. It would stand to reason if for example you applied the highest security setting across the board, Tor and VPN users would get presented with a captcha.

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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Can someone tell me the implications of this in laymen terms? For instance what does it mean "sprayed into caches"? what cache? dns cache? browser cache? if the latter, does it mean you are safe if the person who owns that cache is an innocent non technical iser?

There are caches all over the Internet; Google and Microsoft run some of them, but so do virtually every Fortune 500 company, most universities, and governments all over the world. The best way to understand the bug is this: if a particular HTTP response happened to be generated in response to a request, the response would be intermingled with random memory contents from Cloudflare's proxies. If that request/response…

PINBOARD!!!!!!!!! (It's a web-crawling & caching service.)

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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People are going to lambast CF for downplaying the impact, and there could be merit in that. However, I really want to say I am absolutely impressed with both Project Zero AND Cloudflare on so many fronts, from clarity of communication, to collaboration, and rapid response. So many other organizations would have absolutely tanked when presented with this problem. Huge kudos for CF guys understanding the severity and…

CF's infosec team is very, very good at their jobs.

Then why are they talking about that 3000-ish number instead of the 7 million number?

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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fuck :(

Indeed, this is the point in the comment thread where you get the feeling the internet is broken.

What I'm wondering: how many fuckups like this need to happen for website owners to realize that uber-centralization of vital online infrastructure is a bad idea?

But I guess there is really no incentive for anyone in particular to do anything about this, because it provides a kind of perverted safety in numbers. "It's not just our website that had this issue, it's, like, everyone's shared problem." The same principle applies to uber-hosting providers like AWS and Azure, as well as those creepy worldwide CDNs.

Interestingly, it seems this is one of the cases where using a smaller provider with the same issue would really make you better off (relatively speaking) because there would be fewer servers leaking your data.

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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Step 1) MITM the entire Internet, undermining its SSL infrastructure, build a business around it Step 2) leak cleartext from said MITM'd connections to the entire Internet I recently noted that in some ways Cloudflare are probably the only entity to have ever managed to cause more damage to popular cryptography since the 2008 Debian OpenSSL bug (thanks to their "flexible" ""SSL"" """feature"""), but now I'm certain o…

Step 0) Obtain black funding from NSA budget to start and "VC invest" in a global CDN company... (Now I'm trawling Crunchbase to see if I can work out which investors are NSA front companies, then I'm gonna look to see what _else_ them and their partners have invested in...)

Am I misunderstanding that this would be useful for parallel construction, but that the public failure actually subverts the usefulness of Cloudflare as a MTIM partnering with someone?

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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That's also what I'm interested in. There's a lot of talk about the sites that had the features enabled that allowed the data to escape, but it's the sites that were co-existing with those that were in danger. In terms of the caching, knowing the broken sites tells you where to look in the caches after the fact, but do you have any idea of who's data was leaked? Presumably 2 consecutive requests to the same malformed…

> Presumably 2 consecutive requests to the same malformed page could/would leak different data. Wouldn't the second request be served from the CDN cache? Since for Cloudfare that particular page is a valid cached page, it would send you that same page on the second request.

Cloudflare doesn't cache HTML pages by default.

Re: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory

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I wonder if archive.org or archive.is have anything cached...

archive.is was red, meaning it uses Cloudflare.... www.doesitusecloudflare.com

The concern isn't that they use Cloudflare. The concern is that they're spidering the Internet, and therefore might be storing cached data that Cloudflare leaked.
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