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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by sjcsjc »

mhp wrote: post #366
deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

The Trellists made Trello. And the Trellists are going to keep working on Trello at Atlassian. Atlassian understands that Trello is unique and beloved and they definitely do not want to mess that up. Read this article that Jordan Novet wrote. I know seeing is believing and you will have to wait and see, but I agree with everything Jay Simons says in this interview. "During the interview, Simons took time to assure me…

Perhaps one of them is Mrs Trellist of North Wales?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by nimchimpsky »

pfranz wrote: post #436
iambateman wrote: post #420

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I'm not sure about acquisitions, but compared to github, jira and bitbucket are poor. I tried to figure out what confluence even does and I'm still not sure. Considering I'm forced into the atlassian ecosystem at work, this is my plea for y'all to improve.

Not sure if you're playing dumb, but Confluence is a wiki. When I was using it, it was much better than any other I've tried (with or without live view). People at my company seemed to gravitate towards Google Docs when that came around--which is much better for creating and updating content, but isn't as good about searchability, linkability, versioning, or pulling docstrings from code. At that same company, we swit…

Confluence is rubbish, awful to use in my experience.

For ticketing systems, trello or youtrack.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by nimchimpsky »

hobarrera wrote: post #563
cyberferret wrote: post #497

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I infinitely prefer BitBucket to GitHub. I guess GitHub is great if you are working on public or open source projects, but BitBucket seems to be much better at handling internal (private) projects to me. Their lack of popularity also seems to translate to a lower attack profile, so I feel that my private projects are safer on BB than GH. I've evaluated many issue trackers too, and none of them seem to come close to J…

You might want to look at GitLab, which basically has the best of every other world, with sparkles.

https://developer.atlassian.com/blog/2015/01/a-better-pull-r...

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by nimchimpsky »

tiglionabbit wrote: post #397
deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

Nearly every company I've worked for eventually brings in the Atlassian bullshit despite my protest. It usually begins with hiring some project manager who likes Atlassian and forces the hire of an Atlassian shill to configure Atlassian products full time, but it never becomes any good. They pry us off our existing issue tracker and wiki (github, trac) and force us to use that awful content-editable-based wiki that d…

this +1

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by nimchimpsky »

allover wrote: post #514
tiglionabbit wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly every company I've worked for eventually brings in the Atlassian bullshit despite my protest. It usually begins with hiring some project manager who likes Atlassian and forces the hire of an Atlassian shill to configure Atlassian products full time, but it never becomes any good. They pry us off our existing issue tracker and wiki (github, trac) and force us to use that awful content-editable-based wiki that d…

This probably doesn't need saying, but seems you work in toxic teams. Your first paragraph suggests a ton of blame is being thrown about. If you work at a company like that, get out. (That of course, or you suck at empathy for your managers, and you're the problem). The place I work at, Jira is used pretty reasonably. Our devs, in 2 different teams have setup the workflows to show our progress and deployment flow in…

"I'd rather use Trello"

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by taneq »

pcl wrote: post #435
komali2 wrote: post #423

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I feel like I'm the only one that likes Jira more than Trello. I started on Trello, then moved to a company that uses Jira, and couldn't be happier. It's just so functional . Why does everyone hate on it?

Bear in mind that Jira is hugely customizable. So, saying "I use Jira" is more like saying "I drive a Ford" than like saying "I drive a Mustang." Your experience will depend on the plugins you've installed, how you've configured custom fields and workflows, your org's SSO policies, the hardware you're deploying it to and how well you keep it up to date (if you're deploying on-prem), etc.

"Customizable" is a two-edged sword. The ultimate in customizable software is an assembler - you can configure it to perform the function of literally any software possible! But its utility at solving any fixed problem is very low.

The purpose of software is to specialize hardware to perform a required function. The more configuration is required to do this, the less overall value the software provides for that function.

As a software designer your job is to maximize the sum of that value across all functions that you support. As a software consumer, though, you just want the least possible configuration to perform your required function.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by nimchimpsky »

farkas wrote: post #412
ryanSrich wrote: post #98

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Is Trello really a competitor though? JIRA and Trello couldn't be more different. I'd think Trello and Asana are much closer competitors. JIRA is like an over engineered spaceship with more features than anyone could learn in a lifetime. Comparatively Trello functions more like a Prius. Priuses and spaceships don't compete.

We don't view JIRA and Trello as competitors. JIRA shines in areas that (a) have workflow and (b) require repeatable processes across a number of people. Once you have 20+ people on a project, you need repeatable processes. In cases like bug tracking, project management, customer service, help desks, HR onboarding and hundreds others you need workflow. Trello shines in areas where you have (a) small teams or (b) requ…

"We don't view JIRA and Trello as competitors."

You might not view them as that, but they are, well were.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by nimchimpsky »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #357
matthewmacleod wrote: post #172

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Trello was ridiculously cheap. I think you're totally out of luck if you expect anybody to make a clone that's cheaper.

>"I think you're totally out of luck if you expect anybody to make a clone that's cheaper." Better tell the Wekan team they're wasting their time then. ;-) https://wekan.io/

It's not a hosted service, its downloadable and open source.

Big difference.

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Post by tiglionabbit »

flukus wrote: post #567
allover wrote: post #514

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This probably doesn't need saying, but seems you work in toxic teams. Your first paragraph suggests a ton of blame is being thrown about. If you work at a company like that, get out. (That of course, or you suck at empathy for your managers, and you're the problem). The place I work at, Jira is used pretty reasonably. Our devs, in 2 different teams have setup the workflows to show our progress and deployment flow in…

> If you work at a company like that, get out. IME, this is most teams. If you get out you are likely moving into another team that's much the same.

Yep. I tended to get into a bunch of early-stage startups. They used to be cool, then they brought in some new management. You never know what things are going to turn into.
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