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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by dx034 »

nodesocket wrote: post #566
dx034 wrote: post #564

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The problem with speedtest-cli is that the servers are set up to test domestic accounts, not other servers. You can be lucky and get ~1GBs bandwidth, but just because you don't doesn't mean that it's the fault of the provider. The server specs and speedtest only require a 1Gbit/s port, so you will probably not get higher results than yours anyway. Network speed should generally not be the issue with AWS, it's disk io…

Agree speedtest-cli is not perfect, but you can see from my test I got near the 1Gbps that DigitalOcean advertises. I am curious if AWS LightSail even breaks 100Mbps. In terms of network speed not being important, that's not true. Lots of workloads are network bound not i/o bound (load balancers, web servers, etc).

That's what I meant. The results show that the DO box is fast enough, but a slow result doesn't indicate that you can't saturate traffic. It's really hard to test without real-world traffic, haven't found a reliable way to do so yet.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by lewisl9029 »

tener wrote: post #398
highmastdon wrote: post #371

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That would be Azure. They have hard limits and they shutdown when you get over the limit I believe

I keep wondering how accurate is that. On one hand implementing that precisely surely must be difficult - if it wasn't, everyone would have it. On the other hand, Azure clearly have issues calculating the bills in real time. Heck, once I kicked off a bunch of large VMs for a day. Once shut down I checked out the billing page - the costs estimates kept increasing every hour! My hypothesis is that they don't really hav…

I can only speak for my own experience, but it has saved my wallet a couple of times in the past few years. The spending limit is advertised fairly explicitly just that: a customizable limit on your monthly spending [1]. If it doesn't work as intended and you end up with a bill larger than the limit you set up, you'd have a rock-solid case for disputing the extra charge.

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/spending-limits/

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by dx034 »

acejam wrote: post #64
jakozaur wrote: post #2

Just announced on AWS Reinvent Keynote. It's nicely packaged their existing products (EC2, VPC, ...). So you can get Digital Ocean like experience on AWS. You can still tune the underlying services.

It's already too expensive compared to DigitalOcean and Linode. An $80/month instance only gives you 2 CPU cores. For the same money you can get 4 @ DigitalOcean and 6 @ Linode.

Still don't understand why people use $80 vps. You can get at least 2 dedicated servers with each way more performance for that. Vps make sense if you need low performance or quick resizing, but I doubt that's what most $80 instances are used for. Don't see how they make sense financially..

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by dx034 »

brilliantcode wrote: post #343

What a day for AWS on HN. 8 AWS products made it to front page. I've learned new AWS product like Cognito today just from the comments (ironically in the "Google is Challenging AWS" thread). I feel as excited as I was for Azure's Build 2016. Now I'm feeling pulled to AWS. This is great for AWS, not so much for Google Cloud which further fades into obscurity in my mind. I'd love to see that change, more competition in…

Compare disk performance before you switch. You could be severely disappointed if you have disk heavy applications (which is very likely with small vps)

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Post by dx034 »

jjcm wrote: post #143

Keep in mind if you are a current EC2 customer and are excited about a cheaper VPS in your region, the VPSs are only available in Virginia. I was pretty excited about a cheaper VPS I could provision in the Sydney area, but these are restricted to a single datacenter.

Thanks for pointing that out. Seems like a weird decision given that they have the underlying product in many regions.

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Post by St-Clock »

laxk wrote: post #549
St-Clock wrote: post #108

They advertise a 99.95% EC2 SLA. Does that mean that an instance in a single AZ can go down anytime for any length of time?

Anytime but not any length of time. 99.95% SLA means the following amount of downtime: Daily: 43.2s Weekly: 5m 2.4s Monthly: 21m 54.9s Yearly: 4h 22m 58.5s

But in the context of ec2, downtime must occur in two AZ at the same time to count IIRC. There is no single AZ SLA.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by dx034 »

eloff wrote: post #493
finnh wrote: post #426

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The "transfer to Lightsail" step (from another AWS resource) is free, as long as you use the private IP.

No, unless you setup VPC peering between the shadow lightsail VPC and your AWS VPC, otherwise you'll be charged at least the $0.01/GB on egress, and maybe the $0.01/GB on ingress into lightsail too (not sure, the wording makes it ambiguous, one would have to try it.)

There are no ingress charges on lightsail, so the cost should max. be $0.01/GB. Still cheaper than paying egress on AWS.

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Post by kazga »

paulsutter wrote: post #563
jholman wrote: post #554

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Regarding your question about a paradox, what would qualify to you as "an actual paradox"? What is the definition against which you try a contender? Free free to look it up in a dictionary, but that probably won't help you generate a definition that makes "This statement is false" non-paradoxical. Note also that the etymology of paradox is "beyond strange", so historically the bar for qualifying is simply to be a ide…

> I'm curious what probability you think applies to propositions like "2 + 2 = 4" and "All triangles have 3 sides" and "All triangles have less than 11 sides". Those are great examples, thanks. All true, and there's nothing interesting about them.

"All triangles have 3 sides" might be an uninteresting triviality, but "The sum of the squares of the lengths of the catheti is equal to the square of the length of the hypotenuse in a right-angled triangle" is neither trivial nor uninteresting and yet it has a probability of 1.

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Post by dx034 »

r1ch wrote: post #104
N0RMAN wrote: post #67

tl;dr Only available in us-east-1 (N. Virginia)

Wish this was more obvious. Signed up only to find out during creation that this was the case. Was hoping to see how the Seoul location routing was as I'm looking for a cheap VPS with low Asia-EU latency (ie not across the US).

OVH has good connections in that direction. Don't have a lot of data to back this up (not much traffic from the region), but the tests I ran looked good. And it's certainly cheaper than lightsail

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Post by dx034 »

nodesocket wrote: post #422
mbrookes wrote: post #221

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$0.09/ GB ($90/TB). Good luck if you host a service which then gets HN or Reddit hugged!

I've been on the front page of HN multiple times, you won't even come close to the $5 limit of 1 TB. This is ridiculous.

Different if you're on the front page of reddit, or on some popular subreddit. If you don't have all static files on a CDN you can easily exceed 1TB within a few days. Assuming it's a side project that you're not constantly monitoring and you're away for a few days, you could find a hefty bill when you come back.
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