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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by malz »

lloyd-christmas wrote: post #318
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

> in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. A lot of people have desktops, myself included. I'm not really sure where you got such an impression.

Dropping by millions of fewer units shipped each year.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/269044/worldwide-desktop...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by pc2g4d »

I really dig how laptop input devices are in flux right now. There's this trackbar thing, and then there are RGB keyboards like on the Razer Blade Pro. Here would be my ideal input configuration:

* Touchbar with haptic feedback to make the buttons feel more concrete * Physical escape key * RGB keyboard with good travel * Regular-size clickpad

Of course, this configuration doesn't exist anywhere.

The new MacBook Pro is intriguing, but I have concerns: * Max 16GB RAM * Oversized trackpad is going to be a palm-click nightmare * Not sure if I'd like the new keyboard * GPU performance is unclear---they didn't give enough details to assess it

Based on the level of detail in the video on Apple's website, I'm clearly not the target audience of this product. They hardly touched on the actual specs at all, except in a very handwavy, marketeering way.

I had been waiting to see what Apple would offer before replacing my ancient laptop. I just might go with the Dell XPS 15 but have been worried about build quality issues. I'd like something that can play games decently but I'm willing to sacrifice some performance in exchange for reasonable thermals and weight. 5.5 lbs is probably my max weight---I use it on my lap a lot.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by wineisfine »

Anyone else here still working on a Macbook Pro 17" ?

Seems like everybody forgot about it, but was a great machine back in the day. And you could even buy a matte version of the screen.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Spivak »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #549
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

>Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday Hmmm, you make it sound as if the Microsoft event was a home run - it wasn't. The Surface Studio was interesting, but it's clearly aimed for graphic professionals and its stratospheric pricing put it out of reach for a lot of people. As for the Surface Book, well, considering all of the issues they've had with the previous version I'm not sure people will be so incli…

> stratospheric pricing put it out of reach for a lot of people

Look I'm not exactly a fan of MS but $3000 isn't stratospheric in an era where 'budget' gaming builds are $1000 for just the tower and people are regularly spending $1500 - $2000 for a laptop. The equivalent artist setup with a MacBook Pro, a high end external 4k monitor, and a Wacom drawing tablet will easily set you back $3k.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by sly010 »

Apple will literally replace the keyboard with a touchscreen an inch at a time. Then everyone will follow suit, so we will all have to use external wireless keyboards (because the USB3- USB2 adapter will cost more than a new keyboard). Fast forward 5 years and Apple will announce "Macbook Bro", a laptop with a tactile buttons!

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by gregwebs »

stock_toaster wrote: post #474
smnplk wrote: post #333

I think my next ultrabook is going to be the new Dell xps 13(Kaby Lake) or Razer Blade Stealth. Probably not mac anymore.

I want to like the xps 13 too, but the non touch model (I want the matte screen of the non touch model) has a max config of 8gb board soldered ram. :(

I definitely need matte. Dell sells other laptop models with Linux pre-installed, some with larger RAM Configurations: http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-lapt...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Jtsummers »

lostgame wrote: post #454
inputcoffee wrote: post #335

Everyone seems disappointed but I think the reason is this: There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. If you want real innovation, you need new form factors: voice recognition, VR, intelligent devices and so on. The laptop is excellent at what it does and the only thing you can really do is make it faster and lighter.

Everyone's disappointed because we don't WANT innovation. We WANT better battery life, not a slightly thinner laptop. We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. We WANT a touchscreen MacBook. We WANT significantly upgraded specs, and expandability. We WANT to have the same physical keyboard layout we've had forever. We WANT Apple to stop f•••ing us around by increasing the price while actively removing features. THIS laptop…

> We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe.

I, for one, don't. At least wrt older USB ports. Yeah, I'm going to be annoyed over the next couple years having to have a USB-C to A adaptor around until everything gets converted over (USB->lightning, external hard drive) or an HDMI adaptor. But, fuck, I was sick of standard PC laptops still having a serial port years ago. And PS/2 connectors.

At some point, we have to move on. If USB-C is the future (and the industry seems tobe indicating it is), I'd rather us rip off the bandaid and be done with the move so I don't have a laptop 5 years from now (current one is 4, will probably be replaced now or this time next year) with outdated and useless ports from 15 years ago.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by wkirby »

Tinyyy wrote: post #525
wkirby wrote: post #427

What I wanted: - 7th generation Intel chips. Skylake (6th generation) is from August 2015. - A move to Nvidia GPUs - Retain the magsafe power adapter - At least one dedicated display-out port, preferably HDMI - 32GB RAM for the 15 inch base model - Support for the airpods using their new W1 chip What I'm mad they included: - Price increase for low value - Touch Bar does away with physical keys I use daily (most impor…

Would a full touch screen provide functionality for your daily workflows? I think the touch bar has more potential uses, no?

Not at all. To me the touch bar is mostly a gimmick that removes tactile feedback from some commonly used keys --- most importantly escape. What the full touch screen offers, by comparison, is all the same potential functionality, in a place my eyes are already looking. On top of that, stylus support becomes an instant reality.

Now, in my daily workflow it's unlikely that I reach up and tap my screen very often (I'm usually in a text editor), but I'll bet you dollars to donuts that if you ask anyone with a full touch-screen laptop if they'd trade their touch screen for the touch bar, they'd laugh in your face.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by xenadu02 »

massysett wrote: post #425
verandaguy wrote: post #176

I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) by the lack of HDMI and DisplayPort/Thunderbolt ports. I'm even more surprised by the lack of a physical escape key. I'm concerned that it could break some applications (Vim, Emacs, all kinds of command-line stuff), even if isn't as big a deal with Apple's non-developer user base. ... At least they kept the 3.5mm jack.

Surely the Touch Bar will have Esc, along with a bunch of F keys if in Terminal. Indeed, many photos I saw today featured Esc in the Touch Bar. Indeed, it was a large Esc, which would be nice for Vim work. I'm surprised people see a touch screen and somehow think there would be no way to make it a bunch of old-fashioned F keys.

Yes, it has a function key mode. And yes there is an Escape key in the upper-left when in Terminal, Xcode, etc.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by pavanky »

vegasje wrote: post #346

Seems like my next laptop won't be a MacBook Pro. Can anyone recommend a good Linux laptop that will offer up to 32gb of RAM and have decent battery life?

http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-lapt...

I have an earlier version of the precision. You can easily extend the RAM in the precision line, but I am not entirely sure about the XPS.

That said, two things I wish I could have known earlier:

- Get the 1080p version. The intel GPU can not handle 4K (or atleast the one on mine did not).

- The default battery is not enough. Go for the 90WHr battery. I chose the 2 hard disks option, but the good thing is that the battery is replaceable. So I am hoping to get the higher capacity battery soon.

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