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It’s better to burn out than to fade away.
Or, which would be worse? To live as a monster, or to die as a good man?
I love the DEATH .
Aaron Swartz commits suicide
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#562Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have no illusion that therapy is magically going to stop all suicides. I think the very existence of "professional therapy" is a factor in FAVOR of depression and suicide. It means that as a society we have compartmentalised social life, so that the help one previously expected from his family/friends (and ultimately: from the way he can structure his life) is now to be had from paid professionals (or tacky volun…
"as a society we have compartmentalised social life, so that the help one previously expected from his family/friends (and ultimately: from the way he can structure his life) is now to be had from paid professionals (or tacky volunteers)" What if the depressed person is estranged from his family and friends? Or what if he has none? What if he feels he can't talk to either? You overestimate the help that family and fr…
>What if the depressed person is estranged from his family and friends? Or what if he has none? What if he feels he can't talk to either?
Then those are symptoms of a larger personal/societal wrong, and talking to a therapist is just a band-aid applied ad-hoc.
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#56335 years for downloading something that is morally, and supposedly be free (funded by taxpayer money)? This is a big joke! I believe homicide cases dished out lighter sentences.
If access to journals, or more accurately scientific research, is to be restricted in such manner, then all government should stop funding/ providing grants for scientific researches, at least not from taxpayers money. These interested parties, namely the journals publishers, should come out with such funds as eventually they are making money from such works. It's ridiculous for the public to fund their business.
RIP Aaron Swartz.... you have make yourself heard, loud and clear, to the civil society.
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#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're saying that in the UK they don't prosecute people who are depressed? As a Brit, that's news to me. Come on. This prosecution may be unjust for other reasons, but it's just daft to claim that they should not have prosecuted him because he was depressed.
Did I say at any point that depression should exempt someone from prosecution? No. I said their handling was inappropriate. If someone is a suicide risk you watch them, and typically ensure they're not left alone. Stick your straw man where the sun don't shine.
You think Aaron would have let the DA put him on some kind of suicide watch when he wasn't even in custody?
I don't think you're thinking this through. It's natural to be angry, but the DA didn't do anything wrong in relation to his depression, even if the prosecution was unjust for other reasons.
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#565Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts. Aaron has been depressed about his case/upcoming trial, but we had no idea what he was going through was this painful. Aaron was a terrific young man. He contributed a lot to the world in his short life and I regret the loss of all the things he had yet to accomplish. As you can imagine, we all miss him dearly. The grief is unfathomable. Aaron's mother
I'm very sorry for your loss. Sincere condolences.
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#566Earlier quoted context omitted.
> By the time you are contemplating suicide, it's not even close. This is classic begging the question. One could easily say someone who claims suicide is never a rational option is the altered one. It must be seriously condescending for those trying to help someone contemplating suicide to offer such plainly specious arguments against it, especially if that person is the contemplative type. It likely does more harm…
No, if you want to be logical, it's clear that suicide is rarely the right choice, and that it's the suicidal person whose critical thinking abilities are impaired. It's simple: Most people who feel suicidal are feeling suicidal because of/in conditions which are shared by hundreds, thousands, millions of other people. All you have to do, as a rational actor, to decide if suicide makes sense, is to look at what those…
What if he wanted to become a martyr for this particular cause would it then be stupid?
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#567Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts. Aaron has been depressed about his case/upcoming trial, but we had no idea what he was going through was this painful. Aaron was a terrific young man. He contributed a lot to the world in his short life and I regret the loss of all the things he had yet to accomplish. As you can imagine, we all miss him dearly. The grief is unfathomable. Aaron's mother
a tribute to the world. an inspiration for all.
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#568Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts. Aaron has been depressed about his case/upcoming trial, but we had no idea what he was going through was this painful. Aaron was a terrific young man. He contributed a lot to the world in his short life and I regret the loss of all the things he had yet to accomplish. As you can imagine, we all miss him dearly. The grief is unfathomable. Aaron's mother
Aaron Thank You for the work you done.. Rest in Peace. To his Friend and Family I will be praying for you. Blessings.
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#569Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did I say at any point that depression should exempt someone from prosecution? No. I said their handling was inappropriate. If someone is a suicide risk you watch them, and typically ensure they're not left alone. Stick your straw man where the sun don't shine.
You think Aaron would have let the DA put him on some kind of suicide watch when he wasn't even in custody? I don't think you're thinking this through. It's natural to be angry, but the DA didn't do anything wrong in relation to his depression, even if the prosecution was unjust for other reasons.
Social care doesn't require custody.
See http://www.mind.org.uk/mental_health_a-z/8042_mental_health_... for an explanation of (in the UK, at least) the rights for those with mental health issues in prosecutorial circumstances.
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#570Earlier quoted context omitted.
JSTOR is a non-profit created to store scholarly articles and maintain archives of scholarly work for future access. JSTOR is and was a driving force behind the digitalization of scholarly works and most academic journals. JSTOR's sole function is to maintain these archives, even if/when it is not commercially viable to do so. All of this costs money. Universities and companies pay for JSTOR so that it can keep doing…
Oh really? I thought universities and companies paid for JSTOR so that they could redistribute those academic works for profit. If not, why would they care if someone else gets access without paying? And if the universities and companies didn't care, why would JSTOR, a non-profit, care?
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