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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by astrange »

meowface wrote: post #551
adventured wrote: post #488

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The anecdote is likely a false rip of the actual story: [2017] Speaking at an event Tuesday, Scott Forstall, who lead Apple's iOS software division under Jobs, recounted the surprising history behind the company's first touchscreen prototype, which ultimately lead to the first iPhone. It all began, Forstall said, because Jobs had an acquaintance at Microsoft who he really, really, didn't like. "It began because Steve…

Spite cam actually be one of the most powerful motivators for productivity, in my own experience. I can buy this story being accurate.

In Steve's case "fueled by spite" would be more precisely "borderline personality disorder". If you read him in that lens it might help distinguish how to be successful like him without all of the bad parts.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by cortesoft »

prmph wrote: post #534
alluro2 wrote: post #523

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Yep, vote with your wallets. It’s about time Apple learned that excellent hardware alone would not make up for what macOS lacks and where it fails for development.

What would you want Apple to do to improve the developer experience?

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by 12_throw_away »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #347
derwiki wrote: post #176

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Reading Infinite Games, they tell an anecdote about a Microsoft exec on a flight telling an Apple exec that the Zune was a way better portable music player than the iPod. The Apple exec was just “yup, you’re probably right” and then soon after the iPhone dropped

To be fair, the Zune actually was a better media player than the ipod in almost every way. That wasn't a false statement. The issue was the abysmal marketing and "me too" attitude Microsoft had (and still has).

> the abysmal marketing

WELCOME TO THE SOCIAL

I remember multiple tech reviewers praising the marketing at the time. It was the first time my younger and more naive self experienced that now-familiar feeling in relation to the tech industry: "am I taking crazy pills? have I slipped into the bizarro universe? have these people ever interacted with another human being?" etc

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by thatjoeoverthr »

Someone1234 wrote: post #87
jgalt212 wrote: post #73

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when was the turing test beaten?

The EU just had to pass a law to force companies to disclose if a customer service agent is AI or Human. It is beaten. https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/safer-and-m...

Nobody thinks customer service agents are real, realistic or useful. EU just passes laws.

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Post by fnord77 »

acroback wrote: post #553
alluro2 wrote: post #523

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

My 16" M1 Pro MacBook with 32 Gigs of RAM is still going strong. Not going to upgrade till this thing dies. I can ride this puppy for the next 10 years. Say what you will about Apple but their hardware is top notch and it is a great value if you can snag some OG hardware in M series.

my 16" m1 max w/ 64gb is getting a little sluggish on some things

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Post by ardit33 »

alluro2 wrote: post #523

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

I still use my M1 Pro Macbook... for iOS development. It still works amazing well, and the battery still is holding strong. For large apps, compiling can be a tad slow, but for medium and small apps it still works amazingly well.

Eventually I will upgrade, but for me the M1 Pro Macbook (14") has to be the best computer of the last two decades.

Before that, I had the butterfly Intel version, and that was a disaster. Apple just cooked with the M1+ line...

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Post by humanfromearth9 »

alphabeta3r56 wrote: post #559
fooster wrote: post #550

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Ok, what am I using on my workstations then? Windows? Hell no. Terrible hardware, OS sucks. Linux? Hell no! Terrible hardware, desktop is terrible.

Linux (especially KDE) is probably the best desktop OS right now. Not great for laptops though

Why not great?

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by ardit33 »

boredtofears wrote: post #533
alluro2 wrote: post #523

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Weird, I'm still using my M1 Pro and it feels just as fast as it always has. MacOS feels almost identical to me as it did 5 years ago, too, except the ugly icon change.

same... mine works great...

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Post by shit_game »

fooster wrote: post #550
amelius wrote: post #546

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Apple should just switch to making servers instead.

Ok, what am I using on my workstations then? Windows? Hell no. Terrible hardware, OS sucks. Linux? Hell no! Terrible hardware, desktop is terrible.

What are your gripes with linux desktops?

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Post by nomel »

brookst wrote: post #152
dannyw wrote: post #88

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The DRAM market is cyclical. I don’t think anyone truly knows when, but it will happen. Fab capacity is being bought online; there’s just lead time. Noticeably greater intelligence is being achieved at the same number of parameters (see: Qwen3.8). I think the future will be bright, it might be a matter of time. And for tinkers, a used Epyc + DDR4 server can be great fun and epic value.

100%. We're probably on the cusp of over-capacity, a glut, cheap RAM, bankruptcies, and shortages.

Or, they're price fixing, as they have many times before, and are currently being sued for [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_industry_price_fixing

[2] https://moginlawllp.com/dram-antitrust-suit-ai-memory-supply...

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