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Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by t0mpr1c3 »

tptacek wrote: post #548
t0mpr1c3 wrote: post #363

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That is (factually) a giant overstatement, and ignores domestic US politics. It's almost like you believe the US remains interested in promoting free trade. If it did, it wouldn't be levying illegal and constantly changing import tariffs, in violation of international trade agreements that it has signed up to.

I'm waiting for one of these "no you're wrong" comments to explain why it is that I'm wrong. I get that I didn't provide evidence either, but I'm relating the conventional wisdom on BYD-type cars. The C.W. is often wrong! But, like, you have to say why.

Hitchen's Razor

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Post by spacewrangler »

t0mpr1c3 wrote: post #382
spacewrangler wrote: post #360

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False. Tariffs are a standard foreign policy tool used as an economic negotiating tactic.

The US government is literally refunding the tariffs because they were illegal.

Tariffs still exist, some were ordered to stop, but there are plenty still being implemented today, and will be in the future; regardless of which party is in power.

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Post by UltraSane »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #550
leereeves wrote: post #501

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> CCP as it's now was created after reforms by Deng. Their policies changed, so they're no longer responsible for their own history?

I don't think most folks I know in the US are willing to touch the historical wrongs (genocide and slavery) with a 3.048M pole.

Nothing the US has done is covered up the way the CCP has covered up the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

Re: Is this the end of the once-mighty GoPro?

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Post by icar »

microtonal wrote: post #112
sen wrote: post #13

I’ve owned a lot of Gopro cameras, having done video capture for a variety of motorsports, and they just got too expensive for what you get. You can be more expensive if you’re better, or you can be worse if you’re cheaper, but they’re both the downsides while living purely off brand recognition. They also blew up in a time where there wasn’t any real competition. Sony had action cameras but they were bulkier and exp…

I’ve owned a lot of Gopro cameras, having done video capture for a variety of motorsports, and they just got too expensive for what you get. Sounds very similar to another US company - Garmin. They are still popular, but have been raising prices a lot every generation, because for a long time there was no real competition [1]. At this point, Garmin watches that have mapping support have an introduction price of >600…

They seem to be a top brand in sailing for now, still. But they did move to a subscription for their Navionics charts.

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Post by subscribed »

microtonal wrote: post #250
overfeed wrote: post #188

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The more expensive watches (Fenix) also have long battery lives: lasting up to a month on a battery that can fit in a watch. The processors still have to sip power.

The Coros watches are less than half the price, have 22 days of battery life in smartwatch mode (in the Nomad) and render maps extremely fast. If they added solar, they could probably also last a month (the Coros Apex 4 does 24 days, also without solar). The funniest thing is that earlier versions of the Coros even used the Garmin map format (though as many small files and not a single/small number of .img). Though t…

For me coros are non started because of lack of the NFC payments. I'm not even looking beyond that, it's a dealbreaker.

It's brilliant coros sticks to MIP though - the moment I cant buy MIP Garmin when I update the watch next time, I don't buy Garmin.

Good watches, Coros, though, I wish them success.

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Post by GenerWork »

esseph wrote: post #537
GenerWork wrote: post #405

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>These days it's much weirder to see an American flag, and usually you know it has something to do with MAGAs. The weird thing to me is how you see one massive one in the luggage retrieval area when you arrive in JFK (in New York). Always makes me sigh This has to be a troll post. Associating the US flag with MAGA? Sighing because a major international airport has a large flag hanging over the baggage area? Come on.

Yes. The right wing in the US has spent a lot of money and time co-opting the flag as a signal. To not realize this to me means you either haven't been paying attention, or very much live in a bubble. This is not new. https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/07/02/... https://www.newyorker.com/news/us-journal/the-changing-meani... https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/some-trump-supporters-... https://ww…

>The right wing in the US has spent a lot of money and time co-opting the flag as a signal.

So the right wing overuses flag imagery, and as a result the left starts to view the flag as problematic? That's a Democrat/liberal problem.

>To not realize this to me means you either haven't been paying attention, or very much live in a bubble.

I pay attention and don't live in a bubble, and I still think it's absolutely absurd to let the overuse of your countries flag by a specific political group dictate how you feel about seeing said flag.

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Post by scarecrowbob »

UltraSane wrote: post #552
coldtea wrote: post #543

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If that's the "worst part" about them, reacting like that to sedition plans, it sounds quite tame. It's not like people elsewhere, cough , are not arrested for protesting against the bombing in Palestine or against ICE. Or, on the other side of the pond (and on the other side of the political spectrum), for tweeting against illegal immigration to their country. Or in Germany for merely calling the chancellor an idiot…

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A lot of us have very little love for authoritarian regimes.

At the same time, all through out my life I have seen folks in the US us their fantasies CCP as reason to accept a government that they feel is the gold standard for freeedom.

I submit to you that what you're hearing are folks who are even more concerned with not being oppressed than you are telling you that it's not that great here for those of us on, say, the anarchist left or among the black radical tradition or whatever.

If your history begins at the fall of the berlin wall and you are happy about the ecological destruction being directly created by the US and the carcerial state it represents then of course you're going to read things the way you do.

But the reality is that most of us are just tired of hearing how fucking free the US is when they just sentenced 19 of our people in Texas to what are effectively life sentences for participating in a protest that went sideways when one participant decided he didn't want to see the state summarily execute a kid for vandalism.

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Post by TheCondor »

lostlogin wrote: post #263
thih9 wrote: post #243

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> GoPros are used all over in aerospace. If we replaced the brand with Insta360, that puts a big attack vector all over the place. What would the attack vector be? I’m not saying there isn’t any, I don’t know much about aerospace and this sounds interesting.

> What would the attack vector be? The cameras. But quite how, I don’t know.

My Insta360s have wifi builtin, you have to connect to it with their phone app to do some of the processing. It's kind of nice, especially away from home but I wouldn't know how you'd know if it connected to something else or something else connected to it.

I don't know how you'd get devices like that certified for certain higher security applications.

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Post by esseph »

GenerWork wrote: post #566
esseph wrote: post #537

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Yes. The right wing in the US has spent a lot of money and time co-opting the flag as a signal. To not realize this to me means you either haven't been paying attention, or very much live in a bubble. This is not new. https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/07/02/... https://www.newyorker.com/news/us-journal/the-changing-meani... https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/some-trump-supporters-... https://ww…

>The right wing in the US has spent a lot of money and time co-opting the flag as a signal. So the right wing overuses flag imagery, and as a result the left starts to view the flag as problematic? That's a Democrat/liberal problem. >To not realize this to me means you either haven't been paying attention, or very much live in a bubble. I pay attention and don't live in a bubble, and I still think it's absolutely abs…

> So the right wing overuses flag imagery, and as a result the left starts to view the flag as problematic? That's a Democrat/liberal problem.

Independents too, which is larger that either the Democratic party or Republican party in the US.

It's only the Republicans that have a positive view of it at this point.

When you do awful shit and wrap yourself in symbology, surprise, good things like swastikas suddenly become symbols of hate and oppression that were not before. This is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history and across country lines.

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Post by UltraSane »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #567
UltraSane wrote: post #552

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A lot of us have very little love for authoritarian regimes. At the same time, all through out my life I have seen folks in the US us their fantasies CCP as reason to accept a government that they feel is the gold standard for freeedom. I submit to you that what you're hearing are folks who are even more concerned with not being oppressed than you are telling you that it's not that great here for those of us on, say,…

"A lot of us have very little love for authoritarian regimes."

That is quite odd because the CCP is a very authoritarian regime.

Your words have very little relation to reality

You are outraged by the 19 people sentenced in Texas and SO AM I but this kind of political prosecution is unusual in the US but ABSOLUTELY ROUTINE in China.

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