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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Reebz »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #396
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #317

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That's Grok 4.2 not 4.3 right? And why are you comparing to gpt-4.1? (As opposed to one of the 6? model releases since then - would have expected gpt 5.5)

Good catch, there was an issue with the second hardest thing in programming (caching). Here's an updated eval with the proper models https://a3bmfqfom3.evvl.io/

Claude 4.7 is the clear winner to me for manager and formal report updates.

As an ex-senior exec (hundreds of staff), the bolded timeline impact is a particular nuance that I would expect a Lead/Director to format for a VP+ audience. Interesting none of the other models did that. My eyes immediately went to impact statement, then worked back to context to grasp the whole situation.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by conception »

nextaccountic wrote: post #457
conception wrote: post #218

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What I’ve usually seen is 4.7 -> 4.5 -> 4.6 in terms of quality. Though 4.7 seems to hallucinate more than before.

Do you mean, 4.7 is better than 4.5 which is better than 4.6?

Yes. If 4.5 had auto mode and fast mode I’d probably still use it a lot.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by timacles »

mrhottakes wrote: post #441
bilbo0s wrote: post #398

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Good point. But no one is saying "use grok". Grok sucks. Not only because it's seemingly made only to serve the goal of ethnically cleansing non-whites or whatever, but also because it's just not even close to being as useful as other models. In human terms, grok is the job candidate who's simply not qualified. That candidate being a virulent racist is beside the material point. Here's the thing though, the point of…

This comment section is full of people saying "use grok"

100% being astroturfed. Way too many posts coming out of the woodwork with all of these “grok is so good at” conversational points

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by timacles »

Petersipoi wrote: post #519
culi wrote: post #427

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It's being biased on purpose. Musk has intervened multiple times when he believed Grok's responses were too "woke" or "leftist". https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok... In response to Grok saying that the "woke mind virus is often exaggerated" the prompt was tweaked so that Grok now says "The woke mind virus 'poses significant risks'" If you truly believed in what your comment states then you…

Have you ever written a comment about how any of the other LLMs are editorializing in favor of the left, and how that's a problem? Because if you have, I'd love to see the evidence of your intellectual consistency. But something tells me you're just doing the same thing that you're calling out

> about how any of the other LLMs are editorializing in favor of the left

I’m sorry come again now. Would you possibly have some examples of this

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by antod »

somenameforme wrote: post #512
pdimitar wrote: post #474

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Actually super helpful, thank you!

Like most of all widely spoken languages, there's a lot of regional variation in English. There's even a bunch of quizzes online where you answer 20 questions about phrasings, and they can tell you where you're from with a disconcertingly high degree of accuracy. In my experience a "retort" is sharp or witty, but certainly not angry, whereas the word "rebuttal" is itself essentially antagonistic. You might use it whe…

Just personally I tend to regard retort as short and reactive while rebuttal as a longer and more considered disagreement. A retort could be defensive and wrong or it could be sharp and insightful - it doesn't imply one or the other. A rebuttal is mostly an attempt to correct something while a retort doesn't need to be a correction (although it could).

Even something like "piss off!" could be a retort, but usually never a rebuttal :)

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

senordevnyc wrote: post #551
jpadkins wrote: post #548

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guess I've been under a rock. I avoid a lot of corp media. I know about the DOGE thing, but that seems like a pretty weird reason to hate the guy.

I can't believe you're this obtuse.

Maybe jpadkins solutes as Elon does

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by array_key_first »

Levitz wrote: post #536
pantsforbirds wrote: post #438

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I don't understand why people on this website hate Grok for being tied to Elon Musk, but also have no problem with models that are directly sponsored by the CCP.

Campism has taken root. The US is considered evil, China is the opposition, so it's good. Same as Venezuela, same as Iran. It doesn't matter if they are brutally oppressive regimes as long as they oppose the US.

I think literally not a single soul on Earth believes anything even close to this. This is a strawman. You wish people who vaguely disagreed with you are this stupid, but unfortunately, they're not.

People don't like Elon Musk because he's a piece of shit. The CCP sucks too, maybe, but it's all the way over there. Also the CCP is an organization, but Elon musk is a dude. It's a lot easier to hate a dude.

Also, most chinese models are open-weight. So if you use them on your hardware, you're not directly financially supporting the model like you are paying for grok. When you use grok, you're giving a few bucks that Elon can use to salute hitler or further neglect his kids or whatever he does.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by SecretDreams »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #521
SecretDreams wrote: post #380

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> Would Linux have "just happened anyway" without Linus Torvalds? Would Windows have happened without Bill Gates? Facebook without Mark? Clean sewage without Joseph Bazalgette? Mobile X-Rays without Marie Curie? This is in reaction to your Werner Van Braun comment. Do you really think the USA set him to make rockets and engines because he was just a random engineer? No, some people are truly geniuses, and their one i…

Alright so nothing matters. Yes all those things are a team thing but in the end a person can change history. >The rest of your post is relatively jaded and incompatible with my own views, so I'm happy to call it here. Spend some time traveling the world and finding love. The typical deflection into my or anyones personal life who disagrees with them when they are out of arguments. I have traveled and it only solidif…

I think I'd rather have bad pipes than a bad heart tbh. Life and happiness are relative. Probably plenty of people in your examples happier and feeling more fulfilled than you on this current trajectory.

I'd love to see QoL improve everywhere. I effectuate the change that I can with the actions I can control. I volunteer and try to give some of my time and resources to help others have a better crack at life, rather than shun people at the risk of them degrading my life. It's not black and white, sometimes I have to be selfish to ensure the needs of my own family are met. But once their cups are full, I can help fill some other cups too.

You can protect what you got or focus on how others can get a slice of what you inherited from choices that likely preceded your existence.

Ultimately, a quote to consider:

"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children"

If you're taking more from the system than you're putting in and you're already in a good spot, you are a net negative to the people that gotta live on this rock long after you are dust. If you want that to be your legacy, that's for you - but it's not a life for me.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by hu3 »

senordevnyc wrote: post #500
alyxya wrote: post #12

Despite their attrition, this combined with their cursor partnership is likely going to make them competitive in coding agents soon.

If they buy Cursor, I’ll stop using it. I suspect I’m not alone.

If they buy Cursor I might start using it because I'll know the tool will have infinite funding and will be worth my time investment.

Specially because Grok isn't neutered when it comes to security scans.

And it is screamingly fast.

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