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Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by InvidFlower »

0x_rs wrote: post #493

>Thanks for the report! This was an overactive anti-abuse system. Fixed. This is the most interesting line to me. "Anti-abuse system"? I would bet the system is far from being just a conditional on a specific filename. In other words, this supposed anti-abuse system might be far more pervasive without the user's knowledge. And perhaps even more importantly, who thought upcharging instead of blocking is the correct ap…

As the other person mentioned, they have said they are restricting third-party agent systems like OpenClaw and Hermes from using the monthly plan. But yeah, this seems like the wrong way to handle it, trying to detect those other harnesses via clues, and auto-changing billing. Instead, seems like it'd be better to allows vs block, like require some special encrypted signature system or similar that only Claude Code and their desktop app implement. Any other requests just get immediately blocked. Then there's a separate key for normal pay-by-the-token usage that is just unrestricted. Would make things waaaay clearer.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by InvidFlower »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #189

Another slop coded piece of shit causing stupid bugs. I can’t believe they paid 100m for some of these employees. They could have bought entire companies of real developers.

Don't forget the employees doing the actual model training and research are not the same ones coding Claude Code. CC was a side-project by one employee that ended up hitting it big and is now one of the core parts of their income. They were never a software company per se. This is like how MidJourney was just on Discord forever, because no one on the team was a real web developer. Discord made it easy to get something out there, scale up to many users, etc.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by Animats »

actionfromafar wrote: post #364
Animats wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the business has a physical presence somewhere, it's not hard. In California, you can get an order to the Sheriff for a "till tap" or an "8 hour keeper". A till tap means a sheriff's deputy or two show up and take the money out of the cash register. A "keeper" means they stand next to the cashier all day and take in money as customers pay. There are fees for this, a few hundred dollars, and they're added to the ju…

I now want to see the movie about this happening to Google:)

It happened to Bank of America.[1]

[1] https://abcnews.com/Business/bank-america-florida-foreclosed...

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by mothballed »

hluska wrote: post #512
mothballed wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all miss the old days of calling a real Filipino or Dominican slave-center where you got a script loop or suddenly the English runs out whenever it's time to ask for a refund.

Back in the day, comments like this would not have been acceptable here. It’s low brow, unbelievably stupid, adds absolutely nothing and yet still manages to make you sound just a little racist. Good for you, all that on less than fifty words.

You're absolutely right. "Back in the day" (looking at your account, it was created in the 2010s), roughly 2010-2020, was the high water mark for politically correct moral proselytizing.

Your kind has lost the plot, your lies disinfected by the sunlight, and society is progressing back towards tolerating a bit more candid and colorful language. This is especially true with the latest generation who saw the effects of this overly paranoid policing of speech. It's a glorious thing. I am absolutely taking advantage of the fact that I can speech more freely nowadays.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by eudamoniac »

deaux wrote: post #559
eudamoniac wrote: post #545

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I vouched for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if my vouch has been shadow-disabled. It's still dead.

I just don't get what would cause that to happen on that comment.

The shadow cabal

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by areoform »

areoform wrote: post #482
trq_ wrote: post #264

Hey everyone, Thariq from the Claude Code team. We've been on this since the bug surfaced. Everyone affected is getting a full refund and an extra grant of usage credits equal to their monthly subscription as our apology. You can see my original post here: https://x.com/trq212/status/2048495545375990245 . We’re still working on sending emails to everyone affected. Our support flow wasn't set up to route a complex bug…

Hey Thariq, I love Claude! I use Claude every single day and it has changed my life, which is why I did what I'm about to describe. Happy to talk privately, but as I detailed here, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47954005 . I've been billed $200 for a Max gift card to a 27 character alphanumeric icloud address that bounces. I was looking through the system, and there are several UI/UX and process gaps in the gif…

Note for the future, my account was suspended within 24 hours of flagging the duplicated billing.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by michaelmior »

pluc wrote: post #553
michaelmior wrote: post #548

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We have some very heavy users of Codex in my org and we're very happy with the quality (politics aside).

So your thinking in light of this information is just "don't use Claude"?

I don't think it's that simple, but I do think a lot of the problems mentioned are not inherent to the use of AI.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Post by cwnyth »

jack_pp wrote: post #416
mothballed wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all miss the old days of calling a real Filipino or Dominican slave-center where you got a script loop or suddenly the English runs out whenever it's time to ask for a refund.

In the good old days of 2011 when I started to learn C++ "for real" I did it using learncpp.com, google and "support" from freenode's #c++ where truly masterful wizards would help me with the most inane questions. I don't think anything I've ever found has come close to freenode's level of "support". In the old days where we didn't depend on services and everything was local even if you needed something truly arcane…

I went a-looking and found a very old website of mine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20060328114842/http://neonostalg...

You can see all the C fora I frequented. A later snapshot of this website pointed to EFNet. Good times.

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