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Re: Zed 1.0

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None of that would require the "create derivative works" part. I honestly can't see any legitimate reason why they'd have the right to derivate work from yours, and you don't insert that kind of terms by mistake.

AI tab completion and agentic edits are often derivative works.

But should they own any rights on these outputs and edits done to your source code?

Re: Zed 1.0

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lol ok but where does it stop? I got into programming long before LSPs and MCPs. The only craftsmen are the ones at the edge of the lingo tree? To use your own analogy, as a machinist myself : I can master the concept of the lathe and bow drill without learning simulation-driven CAM, and I would be no less a machinist than the guy pressing buttons on a brand new Haas. If you work via notepad.exe and assembly with a c…

It stops at the tools you use, "it's a tool you use every single day". If it's not a tool you use every day, you don't need to learn it. If you don't use language servers, you don't engage with development environments which rely on them, you need not learn them. If you're making chips on a Monarch 60 you don't need to learn shit about CNC. If you're pushing buttons on a Haas you do. If you're coming from a Monarch a…

> If you want to switch from notepad to Zed, you need to learn how language servers work.

Can you not use Zed without knowing how language servers work?

Re: Zed 1.0

#563

does this support plugins? How does it integrate with cmake projects?

i investigated this yesterday and there is one cmake extension. It gives basic support to cmake. Not as neat as vscode/jetbrains/qt/vs but it works. It is depends on CMakePresets.json and has no gui etc.

Re: Zed 1.0

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I really want to use Zed, their technical approach and product design seem great. However, I had to stop using it after a few months because the Typescript LSP was just unbearably slow. An order of magnitude slower than VSCode, often more than 10 seconds to typecheck a change. More worrying is that this has been a known issue for more than two years

Still, congrats to the team. Hopefully this launch means more money to fix issues so I can start using it again.

Re: Zed 1.0

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These are all fairly standard terms.... nothing crazy

Is it? My editor's terms of service seem much more user friendly: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html

Zed is also released under GPL 3:

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/main/LICENSE-GPL

Re: Zed 1.0

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What exactly is phenomenal and novel about Zed? I've tried it a couple of times for a week or so, didn't see the point, and moved on every time. And I'm not luddite swearing by vi or something, I use VSCode and Idea, and have used Sublime for many years, Xcode on/off for some Obj-C/Swift dev, Eclipse for 5-6 years in the 2000s, and vim for everything cli/lightweight since forever. Is the GUI tech what's supposed to b…

VSCode extensions and the ecosystem is a security time-bomb. Zed looks to be doing things better.

Zed literally downloads random executables and runs them by default without asking

Re: Zed 1.0

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I was all for trying it until I saw this in the License Agreement: "4.1. Zed's Use of Customer Data Customer hereby grants Zed a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable (except to service providers and Customer’s designees), non-transferable (except as set forth in Section 15.1) right to use, copy, store, disclose, transmit, transfer, display, modify, create derivative works from, col…

The comment above has started a sh-tstorm. Please, slow down and learn about the details before jumping to conclusions. Most of us here did NOT "go pro" in the law. [1] For those that want to educate themselves, you could do worse than immediately leave HN and go _learn_: 1. SaaS Agreements: Key Contractual Provisions https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/resources/bu... 2. Cornell Law School's Wex: https:/…

> my text editor has a SaaS license agreement

Re: Zed 1.0

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It is a fact that some useful things in the software world are a pain in the ass to learn, and that they could be better on that front. LSP is one of those things, or at least it has been, for a while. LSP is also something that's not necessary to writing quality code; it's absolutely a major quality-of-life boost, but before rewriting my configs after switching to Rust, my LSP usage was limited to being a slightly f…

The context is a user adopting an editor that has LSP integration and is relying on the language server. That's why I said "it's a tool you use every single day". If your tool is TextMate, you should learn how TextMate grammars work. If your tool is vi, you should learn how modal editing works. If your tool is Ed, you don't need to learn anything because "Ed is the standard text editor".[1] [1]: https://www.gnu.org/f…

To be fair, vi has got its dose of "modal editing is difficult to learn" criticism for years. Why shouldn't zed receive the same treatment if configuring LSP is a pain point for many newcomers?

Re: Zed 1.0

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Congrats to the Zed team for building the best modern editor I have ever used. I subscribe to the monthly plan just to give you guys the funding you need, even if my funding is a tiny drop in the bucket. I always wanted a feature rich alternative to Sublime Text that can run anywhere and do basically anything I need from it. I've use JetBrains IDEs for years (been subscribed annually since 2017), but since Zed I have…

it's now my go-to for when I need to wrangle basically any text file manually - has handled everything I can throw at it (some of which has crashed other editors -looking at you Cursor/VSCode)

Zed and VSCode can handle about the same file sizes afaik, with Zed just slightly better. Sublime Text etal still beats both.

Re: Zed 1.0

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I really respect the people who have the sanity and patience to start the development of a new editor.

People are sooo picky when it comes to editors. Guaranteed they will not be satisfied. Too fast? Then it is not doing a lot. Too many features? Well now it is too heavy. Does it use sane key bindings? FU we want vim shortcuts.

Anyway, congrats on the launch folks. Hope you keep delivering excellent software despite the noisy feedback.

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