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Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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I also have no clue why people use it. You can build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

This reference is 19 years old this month, in case anyone who recognized it was still feeling young.

noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Anyone have suggestions for backing up Google Drive + local files? I keep reading the horror stories about people getting locked out of cloud services, and worry about my 20 years of history stored in Drive. Less worried about local files which are sync'd to an external disk, but it'd be nice to have something in place for everything.

I have the same worry about being locked out.

So I back it up to a NAS. I bought a Synology NAS (back before they turned into an evil company) which includes a Cloud Sync app which will connect to your Google Drive and sync changes every hour. It's technically sync not backup, but because all deleted files go into a "Trash bin" directory that you can set to never empty, it effectively works as backup for deleted files too (though you can't recover older versions of a file that still exists). The really great feature is that it has the option to sync all files that are in Google Docs/Sheets/Slides format as converted to Word/Excel/PPT. And the great thing about the backup running on your NAS is that it doesn't depend on your computer being on or anything.

I know Synology's considered an evil company now because they seem to tie you to their own hard drives now, but I don't know if there's anything else as easy to set up for reliably syncing consumer cloud files to a NAS. Hopefully there is though, if anyone else knows?

And of course, you can similarly run a backup program on your computer to back up your local files to it, as it's just a network mount.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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> Here's the thing: I'm paying about $14/month for that S3 storage, which makes $99/year a total steal. I don't use Dropbox/Box/OneDrive/iCloud so the grievances mentioned by the author are not major hurdles for me. I do find the idea that it is silently ignoring .git folders troubling, primarily because they are indeed not listed in the exclusion list. A big difference here is that Backblaze only keeps deleted/chang…

Thanks so much! That is super valuable input. I do notice in their GUI that they offer a >30 memory for extra $: 30-Day Version History (Current) Included 1-Year Version History Forever Version History $.006/GB/Month for versions changed or deleted more than 1 year ago They are not giving much information here at all. The above is not a pasting artifact; their page literally doesn't give any indication of how they pr…

It looks like the 1 year option was introduced maybe 2 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/backblaze/comments/175haik/is_upgra...

(Ironic that their ex-employee wrote: "In this case, it is always kind of scary for Backblaze to just quietly change a setting from one setting to a different setting in the product for the customer without the customer taking that action themselves." — when that's what happened in this case.)

I don't use Backblaze, but I found the Version History doc for you:

https://www.backblaze.com/computer-backup/docs/version-histo...

Seems like whatever version is not currently on your local disk would be chargeable.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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I also have no clue why people use it. You can build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

This cannot be a serious proposal. You should probably talk to people who don't use technology because they love it, but because they need it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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"Great idea wise customer, I will certainly mock one out just for you!"

My favorite Peanuts comic was always the one where Linus is standing at an intersection next to a 'Push Button To Cross Street' sign. He is sucking his thumb and clutching his blanket despondently. In the last panel, Charlie Brown tells him, "You have to move your feet, too."

Was it Snoopy waiting instead of Linus?

https://featureassets.gocomics.com/assets/5ee4a050f894013014...

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Restic + rclone personally, with a wrapper script to glue things together nicely

What's the advantage of additionally using rclone vs. just restic?

Mostly because it allows decoupling authentication to a given remote, away from restic. easier to use `rclone:remote:folder` than needing to provide a remote + a separate set of env vars to authenticate with that remote.

Not an issue in most languages, but I'm using bash, so its more of a bother.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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It’s funny that the same person asking for linux support would complain about B2 “not being for home users”. I sync my own backups to B2 and would set that up over installing linux any day of the week! It’s extremely easy.

What software/workflow do you use for this Linux to B2 backup please?

Not OP, but this is my script: https://gist.github.com/smj-edison/33229537007a73520a26a14a0...

It's been cobbled together over the years to add things I want, like not backing up on battery, or sending a desktop message on success. When I set it up I couldn't figure out how to set up a timer, so it runs when I wake from suspend. I'd probably use a systemd timer in the future though.

I also should probably snapshot my file system before backing up since I'm running btrfs, but I never figured out how to do that either, and this works, lol.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Some companies are in the business of trust. These companies NEED to understand that trust is somewhat difficult to earn, but easy to lose and nearly IMPOSSIBLE to regain. After reading this article I will almost certainly never use or recommend Backblaze. (And while I don't use them currently, they WERE on the list of companies I would have recommended due to the length of their history.)

> trust is somewhat difficult to earn, but easy to lose and nearly IMPOSSIBLE to regain Eh, I don't agree. Case in point: Microsoft. Or in other words: a sucker is born every minute.

That's why Microsoft isn't a company that relies on trust and doesn't really care about it. They rely on inertia to continue to exist because they used to be popular and so now we can't just get rid of them all at once.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Unlimited strings are a problem. People will use it as storage. No, I'm not joking. We used to allow arbitrary paths in a cloud API I owned. Within about a month someone had figured out that the cost to store a single byte file was effectively zero, and they could encode arbitrary files into the paths of those things. It wasn't too long before there was a library to do it on Github. We had to put limits on it because…

Just include filename size in file size for billing purposes?

In the fine print, only to be used against bad actors (w/guarantee that filenames under x chars would never be charged), or that too problematic? building good faith into policy + "hiding" info...

Reason - to not overcomplicate or give appearance of nickel-and-diming

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