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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Well, you see, if men stay alive, but women are killed, society collapses eventually as not enough new people are born. It sucks being a man in this scenario, but it is what it is.

And if you include women (well, all genders) directly in the war efforts you double the amount of soldiers you have, which would increase your chance of winning and not needing to repopulate.

Someone has to stay behind and make ammunition.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Did you just forget about the mobilization drive Russia had in 2022, where they grabbed young men off streets and from their houses? It was very unpopular, lead to people fleeing the country, and was pushed out of the public eye as soon as they figured out how to forcefully volunteer people instead.

Nobody grabbed anyone. It was an unusual, but otherwise a normal bureaucratic process. Got handed a paper, signed, have to appear. Many probably didn't have plans to go voluntarily, but felt it unmanly to dodge. I was at one of such sites and saw a man who got there too drunk and was handed over to the police; he was very disappointed he is not allowed go with the fellas. It wasn't hard to dodge; you could just refus…

> Nobody grabbed anyone

Around the Moscow elite, no. In the outer provinces, we have ample evidence of forced conscription.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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I would bet my money on asian societies.

I don't know. A lot of countries in East Asia seem to struggle demographically just as much as Western countries do, if not more. But at least it seems they didn't go for the easy solutions that is mass immigration, so hopefully their children's "seats" won't be taken when they finally wake up. On the other hand, as someone living in Central Europe, it's obvious our society is heading towards a radical change. I don'…

I think its more about a rotten ideology and mass migration is only a symptom. Also it could make sense if you would actually care about taking people that are educated and willing to work.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Yeah, those are just pretty words without the power to enforce them, like everything else the UN does

Every law is just words unless there is a power that can enforce it.

But the UN DHR doesn’t seem to have been written as law. It was written as a declaration, in line with our own Declaration of Independence. It lists our ideals that need to be spelled into law. That lets it be airy and vague in a way laws cannot.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Why does it exclude women? War is not just physical strength, but also logistics, operating vehicles, operating drones, nursing, and so on. All tasks that women are well capable of.

Most roles in the military require ad hoc applications of brute strength to do the job competently even if it isn't per se part of the job description. This includes things like operating vehicles, desk jobs, etc. In the military context, almost every job must be performed in the field or in the absence of (working) machinery. You still must be capable of carrying the equipment load-out for your role on your back. Th…

None of this disqualifies women from service. Of course, special forces and frontline troops will face these challenges day-to-day, but women who can't handle this will simply wash out from those. Which is not a big problem; only a tiny percentage of the military comprises these.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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The crazy thing to me is also that they slipped it into the law on January 1st, and our quality journalism (such as OP DW), for which we are forced to pay monthly fees, only reports about it now - and I'm fairly sure they didn't break the story, they caught onto it pretty late. Almost like by design. Oh yeah and the obvious discrimination. If you change your gender on paper now you probably won't be affected, but you…

Deutsche Welle is not funded by the “Rudfunkbeitrag” but part of the federal budgetz

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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That's a non-sequitur to the question. And the answer is that women are equal to men in all things, except when things get serious, and then all of a sudden biology matters again

Well women are the rate limiting factor in having more men produced for war fodder. It probably makes more sense to ban birth control at the same time men are required to die for the war machine as both would then be playing out their slavery-induced biological role in ensuring survival of the nation. That is if you're down with the whole slavery for war thing.

Most actively wars are over long before the replacement rate starts to matter, and women that get pregnant or raise children will in all likelihood get an excemption from frontline duty.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

#568

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Every law is just words unless there is a power that can enforce it.

But the UN DHR doesn’t seem to have been written as law. It was written as a declaration, in line with our own Declaration of Independence. It lists our ideals that need to be spelled into law. That lets it be airy and vague in a way laws cannot.

How does this relate to my comment?

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Modern Germany will collapse in the face of any war that would justify conscription, so it's all a moot point anyway. The country is already in a slow burning crisis due to the political and economic results of its demography, and a war coming to its own soil will send the walls tumbling down.

No war justifies slavery ("conscription").

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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I still cannot understand why and what we are fighting for. Setting aside the wars of the previous decades, Russia was a long term ally with Ukraine, much like the USA and Canada and then out of nowhere they are in a "soft war". Also, after 50 years of the Islamic regime in Iran, we should engage in another soft war, again because of ill defined reasons. The soft is in contrast to regular war which locks down the who…

What is this propaganda. > Russia was a long term ally with Ukraine, much like the USA and Canada and then out of nowhere they are in a "soft war" First off the history between Ukraine and Russia is nothing like between USA and Canada. Russia killed millions of Ukrainians in 30's by starvation, known as "Holodomor". Secondly Ukraine voted for independence immediately after Soviet Union collapsed. Most egregious claim…

where did you get this information? after the collapse of the ussr and before putin there was no tension at all. yeah, there's some history, like between any (almost) neighboring countries. there are no real reason to fight between russia and ukraine. these conflict was absolutely hand-made by russian propaganda
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