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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

Does OpenAI use a lot of python?

There is the literal benefit of "we use the hell out of this tool, we need to make sure it stays usable for us" and then there is what they can learn from or coerce the community in to doing.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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This has me thinking about VS Code and VS Codium. I've used VS Code for a while now, but recently grew annoyed at the increasingly prevalent prompts to subscribe to various Microsoft AI tools. I know you can make them go away, but if you bounce between different systems, and particularly deal with installing VS Code on a regular basis, it becomes annoying. I started using VS Codium, and it feels like using VS Code be…

MS is actively making your life using VS Codium a pain. They removed the download button the extension marketrplace making it very difficult to download extensions and installing them in VS Codium since VS Codium does not have access to the official MS extension marketplace. Many don't publish outside the marketplace for example Platformio. [1] [1] https://github.com/platformio/platformio-vscode-ide/issues/1...

I've not struggled to find the things I need at https://open-vsx.org (usually by searching directly within VSCodium), but then I only use it for editing things like markdown docs and presentations, LaTeX/Typst, rather than coding, which I prefer to do in a terminal and with a modal editor.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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On the flip side, I'm not sure I ever saw a revenue plan or exit strategy for Astral other than acquihire. And most plausible bidders are unfortunate in one way or another.

Astral was building a private package hosting system for enterprise customers. That was their stated approach to becoming profitable, while continuing to fund their open source work.

i mean ofc but like you can self-host pypi and the "Docker Hub" model isn't like VC-expected level returns especially as ECR and GHCR and the other repos exist

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Wow - this is potentially the most cynical hacker news thread I've ever read. When did this place trade it's curiosity and excitement about technology for constant doomerism? Congrats Astral and co!

Sorry, but I don't think cheering on OpenAI represents curiosity and excitement about technology.

I'm happy for the Astral team but in my opinion, big tech especially is incompatible with curiosity and hacker ethos.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Astral threads here have been surprisingly flag resistant and plentiful. This takeover explains a lot.

I suspect some OpenClaw "secure" sandbox is coming (Nvidia jealousy) with Astral delivering the packages for Docker within Docker within Qemu within Qubes. A self respecting AI stack must be convoluted.

I can't wait until all this implodes after the IPOs.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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I think the push has been entirely organic. Compared to existing tooling, uv is fantastically fast. One of the bigger pain points I’ve faced in Python is dependency resolution. conda could take 30-60 minutes in some cases. uv took seconds. A serious quality of life improvement.

uv replaces pip (and venv, and pipx, and more), not conda. If you want a uv-equivalent that replaces conda, then look at pixi: https://pixi.prefix.dev/

Sure, it replaces pip, but _we used conda_ for env management. And the slow part was still _dependency resolution_, much like pip.

Was there a better option? I’m sure. Choices were made. Regrets were had. Switching to uv was a huge improvement for our purposes.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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I don't remember GitHub or Amazon advocating MIT over GPL. Feel free to prove me wrong by pointing out this massive amount of advocacy from "mega-clouds" that changed people's minds. The ads, the mailing list posts, social media comments. Anything at all you can trace to "mega-clouds" execs.

https://choosealicense.com/ https://choosealicense.com/about/ > "GitHub wants to help developers choose an open source license for their source code." This was built by GitHub Inc a very very long time ago.

The site puts the MIT and GPLv3 front and center with a nice quick informative blurb on them. How are they pushing MIT over GPL?

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Just a tiny project with over 100 million downloads every month, over 4 million every day. No big deal. Just a small shop, don't overstate its importance. https://pypistats.org/packages/uv

Sure, but if tomorrow uv and ruff ceased to exist, we could all go back to any number of other solutions.

Ruff is nice, but not important, uv is one of the few things making the python ecosystem bearable. Python is a language for monkeys, and if you don't give monkeys good tools, they will forever entangle themselves and you. It is all garbage wrapped in garbage. At least let me deploy it without having to manually detangle all that garbage by version.

I'm done pretending this is a "right tools for the right job" kind of thing, there's wrong people in the right job, and they only know python. If no one self-writes code anymore anyway, at least use a language that isn't a clusterfuck of bad design decisions, and has 1 trillion lines of code in the collective memory of people who don't know what a stack is.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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It's such a laughable take. First of all a language is never getting popular simply because it's good. Actually most used languages are usually terrible.[0] Secondly it's non factual. Python's market share grew in 2025[1][2][3]. Probably driven by AI demand. [0]: even truer for natural languages. [1]: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#most-popular... [2]: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/technology#…

Yeah the swath of billions of new devs that have a lower barrier to try out coding will navigate them to python
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