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US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Are people from Qatar and UAE now buying these? Seems these are our new allies now

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Hi, Citizen of one of those European countries here. My new neighbours are fine, thank you.

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This is actually why Trump won’t do them, by the way. He’s already changed his rhetoric to “criminals only”. Trump is completely captured by business interests and is not America First. Mass immigration is the billionaire first position. Younger generations understand this, so we likely won’t see some change for a bit, but it is coming. And it makes sense - they’re the ones suffering most from unfettered immigration.…

You can be anti billionaire and still not be a fuckass racist

> You can be anti billionaire and still not be a fuckass racist

Genuinely, if you can't handle discussing a basic political disagreement without becoming apoplectic, you should take a breath and wait to respond. This is the opposite of what HN is for.

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The latest iPhone model in lockdown mode would be super resistant. Lockdown mode is specifically engineered to protect against Cellebrite / Pegasus-level threats. However, if you’re a noncitizen you might be refused entry, and if you are a citizen you might never see that phone again. The phone will be stored for years until/if Cellebrite finds a vulnerability in that iPhone model, and then it will be searched. Also…

Very interesting. Are there any technical hindrances that prevent Android being the same ?

Slightly out of my depth, hopefully others weigh in.

Getting a very good lockdown mode requires both owning the entire stack (Apps + OS + Silicon) and being willing to sacrifice repairability (swapping chips/cameras/displays/touch controllers is a good way to help hack into a phone), and willingness to spend a lot of money on something that few people would actually pay for. Apple is the only company that's even positioned to take on this challenge.

AndroidOS has to work with a bunch of core functionality chips that Google/Samsung don't make. Having a bunch of different code paths/interfaces for a bunch of different SoC's, cellular modems, touch controllers, and cameras is not a winning recipe for security. Both Google and Samsung also use their own SoC's (Google Tensor G5, Samsung Exynos) but Samsung also uses a lot of Qualcomm Snapdragons ... and if you're using someone else's SoC there's no chance in hell of coming up with a proper "Lockdown Mode". Samsung or Google might be able to come up with a fully integrated solution someday, each have invested in parts of this. Beyond SOC's, Samsung has their custom silicon which helps them lock down security for their combo touch/display controller. Samsung has also invested a lot into customizing their Knox Secure Folder solutions (and everything else branded "Knox" as well, which is all mostly industry-leading for Android options). Google has the Pixel with their own Titan M2 security chip, and obviously they own the OS.

But it's a lot of work when so much of your engineering is dealing with changes that other companies are making. Google has to keep up with Samsung's hardware changes, because the tail wags the dog there, and Samsung spends a lot of engineering time figuring out how to deal with / customize / fork changes to AndroidOS that Google pushes (while the dog still wags the tail, too). Both have to deal with whatever Qualcomm throws at them for cellular modems, and it required a monumental effort/expense from Apple to only just recently bring up a replacement for Qualcomm's modems.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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I come from healthcare staffing. Contracts were heavily affected by cuts in federal programs that are critical to some rural regions, and uncertainty caused by inconsistent messaging about the future of such programs. Some areas are very dependent facilities that can only survive with public funding. For example in nursing categories, CNOs (Chief Nursing Officers) would be requesting more staff, but CFOs would block…

Thank you. Is there a good reason this is showing up now versus in the 2025 data?

I can't speak to the time frames for the article, but I know that the current administration and its policies had a significant negative impact on our business across CY2025.

I ran the team that maintained our business analytic data, and was also on weekly calls where feedback from our clients about the situation was discussed. There was direct correlation between uncertainty and both a decline in new job postings, as well as a lack of renewing existing job contracts.

When comparing our numbers to those of our publicly traded competitors, all the data showed the same trends.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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People were looking for the AI productivity metrics and here they are

How has today's AI meaningfully impacted construction and manufacturing jobs in the US?

By being a distraction to the administrations immigration and deportation efforts and lack of capital vehicles that can return extreme profits

Vaccines don’t cause autism

But Oprah and Jenny McCarthy spread enough bullshit that it led to more cases of children dying because they were out there distracting from the real problem which is not enough vaccination

Real job losses come from company heads fundraising on the promise of automation and then with that additional capital they lay people off

in the same way funding funds research and development or offshoring fund “efficiency improvements” and the externalities of that are higher unemployment

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“ Most of the attraction of living there historically was its extremely business-friendly environment.” How old are you? What propaganda told you this? In my generation (young millennial/genz) the attraction of living in Seattle, which pulled me and almost a dozen professional friends at this point has been: - high quality urban living in a temperate environment. Including access to great parks, waterfront, bikeabili…

Oregon ticks most of those boxes except the difference is that Oregon has very few jobs. People flock to WA because of jobs created by long-standing business friendly policies. That doesn't explain everything, obviously, but I think you need to take it into consideration. For decades I've heard this in some form from people: "Oregon is amazing, but I had to leave when I couldn't get a job." Meanwhile the Sea-Tac regi…

Oregon is on the other end of the continuum when it comes to income taxes ;-)

If you're not too high an income earner, the Oregon income tax is worse than California's.

And no, Washington's sales tax doesn't come close to the Oregon income tax.

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So this. A year ago my wife and I did a road trip up into Canada (Kelowna BC region). It was a new experience. I’ve been up into Canadian provinces many times (20+ over the years), but because of the anti Canadian rhetoric that Trump and company were putting out at the time, I was embarrassed and eager for people to not actually know I was from the states. I was hyper aware of the Washington state license plates on o…

Washington has more in common with BC than with Alabama or Florida. Except for the Pig War, which was more of a disagreement between neighbors over their fence line.

maybe northwestern washington. the rest of the state is basically kentucky.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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This is actually why Trump won’t do them, by the way. He’s already changed his rhetoric to “criminals only”. Trump is completely captured by business interests and is not America First. Mass immigration is the billionaire first position. Younger generations understand this, so we likely won’t see some change for a bit, but it is coming. And it makes sense - they’re the ones suffering most from unfettered immigration.…

It was always "criminals only", but the problem is they have quotas for the number of immigrants to deport, and can't (at all) get to those quotas by just deporting criminals.

> It was always "criminals only"

This is absolutely false. It was always mass deportation of all illegal immigrants. The "worst of the worst" rhetoric is new.

Here's a source, but there are many: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/9/trump-lays-out-agen...

> Appearing on NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday, Trump reiterated his intention to deport every person who had entered the US without authorisation.

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Approval ratings should be far lower than this.

Agreed but we also have to stop saying "the majority support this" or "half the country supports this" it ain't true and leads people to feel hopeless.

44% is "about half"

If you had 1000 coins and put them into two piles one of 440 and one of 560 it would be "about half"

But if your argument is that only 154 million people support this government and that's fine because if it was 174 million there'd be a problem, then sure.

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Unexpectedly is because it's a big miss from the projected job numbers. If you felt like the expected numbers were obviously wrong for this month, you should have traded on that information.

Projected by people who have no idea?

If they're bad at it, you could become obscenely wealthy by betting against expectations.
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