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Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by rconti »

bravoetch wrote: post #475
moolcool wrote: post #214

The iPad would go from a never-buy to a buy-right-away for me, if they added user profiles. It'd be a nice thing to have on your coffee table, where anyone in the household can pick it up and be logged into all of their stuff. Windows XP had this feature. Chromebooks have this feature. It's inexcusable that such an expensive gadget can only have one user.

I have two iPad minis, but they're so unfriendly to use they exist only to display home assistant dasboards. It's overkill, but only because I thought they would be good for other things when I bought them.

The mini is the only iPad I'm interested in. I finally bought one after years of dragging my heels waiting for multi-user support.

Still, I don't use it much. Mostly I'm not a tablet person, but also, the UX is just so bad. It's total abandonware and it shows. The keyboard often covers more than half the screen. The side drawer on maps will cover the "you are here pin" that's in the middle of the screen. And so on. They just don't even try.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by winterbloom »

moolcool wrote: post #214

The iPad would go from a never-buy to a buy-right-away for me, if they added user profiles. It'd be a nice thing to have on your coffee table, where anyone in the household can pick it up and be logged into all of their stuff. Windows XP had this feature. Chromebooks have this feature. It's inexcusable that such an expensive gadget can only have one user.

how does this work from a security standpoint? per user encryption?

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Post by butterlettuce »

Hamuko wrote: post #53
Mindwipe wrote: post #45

The Pro really looks like it's struggling for a reason to exist given how much cheaper this will be and the difference in feature set.

I fucking love my OLED display on my iPad Pro.

i hate mine. when watching movies, scenes that slowly transition to another view look jaggy. Does that happen to yours?

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by pornel »

ezfe wrote: post #185
Havoc wrote: post #117

To what end? I genuinely don’t get the purpose of these high end processors in a tablet. Like more power is nice but what would I do on it that needs it? Serious gamers mostly steer clear of Apple. Video editors presumably use desktops/laptops. Browsing doesn’t need power. Video watching doesn’t need it. Programming on iPads is cumbersome. Who is the target audience that gains from this?

People complain when Apple doesn't do spec bumps. But when Apple does do spec bumps, people complain again.

It's just such a shame that really good CPUs are wasted on an OS that still acts as if it had hardware limitations of the 1st gen iPad.

Whenever I need to get anything done on iPadOS, I feel like I'm wearing boxing gloves.

The device's speed is limited by fiddly animations and DUPLO-sized siloed applications.

Its multitasking power is capped in software.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by pornel »

malshe wrote: post #326
bottlepalm wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPad is the most absurd device ever. It is fully capable of running a full blown general purpose OS, but artificially restricted to be a YouTube machine. Something you give kids in a restaurant to be quiet. Putting an M4 in it is like Apple rubbing our faces in it. Look at this device that could do everything, but can't do anything.

Comments like yours just go on to show how narrow the worldview of many HN users is. Just because you don't know how people are using their iPads doesn't mean iPads "can't do anything". It defies common sense, too. If iPads couldn't do anything, why would people buy them consistently? I can imagine people buying them once because they don't know any better. But iPad is more than 15 years old now.

The complaint isn't that iPad is useless, but that it would be equally useful to nearly every happy iPad user if it had a few generations older CPU.

iPad works for lots of people, but the things that iPad is best for don't really need a powerful CPU.

There are few "Pro" apps that you can run to prove it's possible to run them (except for plugins, OS-level helper apps, extra hardware, background processing that doesn't randomly die, scripting more fine-grained than shortcuts, competent file browser, etc.) but you can max out the CPU for a few minutes and go back to a macbook for real work.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #515
coldtea wrote: post #332

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>Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done.* Nonsens. The iPad is basically a 11 to 13 (Pro) monitor+computer with an amazing touch screen. Adding the official keyboard folio, or any bluetooth keyboard/mourse is trivial, and it makes for an excellent on-the-go machine.…

My monitor has a powered USB-C port and USB hub built into it. It's one cable to dock a laptop, it's pretty cool. If I could plug my iPad into that cable to use it as a Mac I would do that all the time and buy a more powerful iPad. It would be an iPad for idle browsing and a Mac for the times I need a real computer.

I don’t see any reason you couldn’t. iOS supports all of the standard USB C protocols.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

tomaskafka wrote: post #379
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #312

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> they keep circling around it, trying not to make iPads accidentally powerful enough for someone to skip buying a MacBook. Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done. Apple has nothing to fear here.

I would absolutely carry an iPad Pro with a dev environment with me on the holidays for emergencies instead of macbook. And I could add a cheap keyboard, mouse, and connect it to TV to get good enough work environment. Or connect it to dock at home, just like I do with the macbook.

Why? My wife and travel a lot and we spend extended periods of time away from home. I can’t imagine wanting to work from just an iPad. My travel and home setup is a Roost laptop stand, an Apple BT keyboard and mouse and a portable USB C monitor with a stand

Portable Monitor, InnoView 15.8... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095GG31KX?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shar...

Metal Tablet Stand, a Portable... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4KH2GH3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shar...

I have an iPad Air 3rd gen and my wife has a 13 inch iPad Air that she uses exclusively

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Post by hu3 »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #480
jraph wrote: post #433

There's even a paragraph saying it's good for the environment. This means Apple really cares about the environment. That's good! So I suppose I can install my community OS of choice painlessly after Apple decides to stop supporting it so it doesn't turn into e-waste that day despite being perfectly good hardware for many more years? I also suppose parts can be easily replaced without also replacing everything includi…

Apple will repair or recycle for you.

Recycling when it could run Linux after Apple stops supporting it? That would be much better for the environment.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Jeremy1026 wrote: post #358
overfeed wrote: post #342

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> Hard to share the things people use at the same time. How many TVs do you have in your living area?

TVs are traditionally a shared experience. But even still, I have 2 TVs for every person in my household.

I’m 51 and I can’t remember ever going to a house with only one TV. Even my grandparents had multiple TVs and I definitely had one in my room since I was 4.

A quick Google search says that 50% of households had more than one TV in 1980.

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Post by sroussey »

janderson215 wrote: post #454
xattt wrote: post #443

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Multiuser is already baked in iOS-adjacent operating systems. tvOS offers user profiles on power on.

I’m pretty sure iPadOS supports multiple profiles on Classroom[0] devices. [0]: https://www.apple.com/education/k12/teaching-tools/

Yeah, it’s like TVOS. One main account determines apps installed etc (WiFi settings, etc). Then local docs switches per user.

Honestly that good enough for home use.

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