How come this is signed by OpenAI engineers while OpenAI participates in it with DoW? https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175
We Will Not Be Divided
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Needs a union. With strikes and all that jazz.
I don't know why you're being downvoted. This letter is completely toothless, and what you're suggesting is literally the only thing that these people could do that would make a difference.
Hanging out in the streets on a Saturday is America's conception of a protest, you think people with this sort of consciousness understand unionizing?
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Trump was threatening Netflix for having a democrat on the board last week. They seized 10% of Intel. They forced Nvidia to tithe 25% of China revenue into a slush fund. The FCC has been used to censor comedy. The ship has sailed and the only consequence has been hand-wringing.
But the Dow is over 50,000! That is, the money doesn't care so long as it's still profitable. When the recession comes a Democrat will be allowed back in to fix things. See Liz Truss.
No one after Liz Truss fixed anything in Britain.
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#564This has much broader implications for the US economy and rule of law in the US. If government procurement rules intended for national security risks can be abused as a way to punish Anthropic for perceived lack of loyalty, why not any other company that displeases the administration like Apple or Amazon? This marks an important turning point for the US.
Its called corporatism and is a part of classical fascism.
I don't see a good reason to downvote you, though that's a pattern here these days. But I do have a question about your statement. This move certainly has the hallmarks of fascism. But how is it corporatism when it's the elected government that's trying to punish a corporation? Granted that this regime is deep in the pockets of the corporations and billionaires. But it looks like they would have spared Anthropic if they capitulated to the regime's demands and bent their back over. This seems more like retribution for refusal of loyalty rather than corporate sabotage.
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You all want to feel safe just because you are a US citizen but this is a mass surveillance technology on global level. It’s nothing like some secret agent spying on a KGB asset in Berlin like in the old days. We are writing on HN, are we on American soil? Not really. No one asked me for passport. This is not a “domestic” space. Everything here can be automatically and legally spied on. And this applies to everything digital. Spy bots don’t have the concept of “domestic” or any way to identify citizenship. And if Google or TikTok can spy on you, your government and ChatGPT/Grok’s agentic secret agents can definitely spy on you. I’m sure they have better loopholes than the Eyes thing, if they really need one.
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You should definitely ask your local homeless veteran of their opinions of other forces. I highly doubt many will have anything but praise to express. When these things done right you won't hear about it.
Pardon?
It's a response to the "puny" part of your statement. Anzac special forces are renown for their brutal effectiveness (and frequent disregard for the rules of war[1])
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It is a rough precedent that the government can force private citizens to build weapons for them.
The government has always had monopoly over violence. Not only in the US, but everywhere else there is a government. Arthropic is trying to make that a corporate prerogative, which is why its causing such a stir.
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#570The signatories of this (letter, petition, whatever) are the same folks who profit from creating this Pandora's Box. If you don't want it opened, stop making it?
There are other valid use cases than war for AI.
War will be a comparatively honest use of this technology compared to how the likes of Google will monetize it going forward.