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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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This is only the first year of this fascist government, and I believe the first powerful company that is taking a stance? Meta, Apple, etc. have all bent the knee right?

Apple not just bent the knee, but also presented a golden plaque to go along with it. Yuck

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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I don't think I'll ever be able to understand how someone can read what Trump posts and think "Yeah, that's a guy I want as my President."

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the original contract, it's entirely appropriate for a vendor to tell the customer how to use any materials. Imagine a _leaded_ pipe supplier not being allowed to tell the department of war they shouldn't use leaded pipes for drinking water! It's the job of the vendor to tell the customer appropriate usage.

Not in software though. Clear precedent has been established via EULAs. Software companies set the rules and if users don't like, they can piss off. I don't see why it would be any different for the government.

Because it's the government? Companies need to follow the rules the government sets, if they like it or not

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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So they are such a risk to national security that no contractor that works with the federal government may use them, but they're going to keep using them for six more months? So I guess our national security is significantly at risk for the next six months?

> So I guess our national security is significantly at risk for the next six months? That does seem to be what Hegseth is arguing, yes; and that is presumably his justification for doing something drastic here. Although I assume he is lying or wrong. And as a cynic, let me just add that the image of someone going to the political overseers of the US military with arguments about being "effective" or "altruistic" is j…

There has been a terrifying decline in quality and an increase in corruption in Trump’s second administration.

Re: the hilarity part, I’m conflicted: in general, a good sense of humor is useful, but in present circumstances a stoic seriousness seems warranted.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the original contract, it's entirely appropriate for a vendor to tell the customer how to use any materials. Imagine a _leaded_ pipe supplier not being allowed to tell the department of war they shouldn't use leaded pipes for drinking water! It's the job of the vendor to tell the customer appropriate usage.

Not in software though. Clear precedent has been established via EULAs. Software companies set the rules and if users don't like, they can piss off. I don't see why it would be any different for the government.

Depending on the country, their legal value is limited: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-user_license_agreement#Enf...

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Help me understand the line Anthropic is drawing in the sand? Don't get me wrong i'm glad they are unwilling to do certain things... but to me it also seems a little ironic that Anthropic literally is partnered with Palantir which already mass surveills the US. Claude was used in the operation in Venezuala. Their line not to cross seems absurdly thin? Or there is something mega scary thats already much worse they wer…

The whole reason this is happening is because Anthropic looked into how Claude was used in the Maduro op and found it to violate the negotiated terms of service. Their hard lines are: - no usage of AI to commit murder WITHOUT a human in the loop - no usage of AI for domestic mass surveillance

So... this would be fine with them?

Claude: "Are you sure you want me to commit murder?"

User: "Yes"

Or do you mean Human presses button:

Claude: "Do you to commit murder? If so press the button."

User: "I pressed the button"

Claude: "Great! Now lets summarize what we did."

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the original contract, it's entirely appropriate for a vendor to tell the customer how to use any materials. Imagine a _leaded_ pipe supplier not being allowed to tell the department of war they shouldn't use leaded pipes for drinking water! It's the job of the vendor to tell the customer appropriate usage.

Not in software though. Clear precedent has been established via EULAs. Software companies set the rules and if users don't like, they can piss off. I don't see why it would be any different for the government.

A lot of things are different when it comes to national security, and military.

Congress could come up with an act it it's for national interest.

The military isn't the typical End User.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a waste of your effort to apply rational argument to the actions of a group that are in it for a shakedown.

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Facilitating "mass domestic surveillance" and "fully autonomous weapons" are social responsibilities now? Insanity.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Good. I'd rather not have my favorite AI from a company working on AGI to have murder and spying in it's DNA. In fact, as a patriotic American veteran, I'd be ok with Anthropic moving to Europe. It might be better for Claude and AGI, which are overriding issues for me. Rutger Bregman @rcbregman This is a huge opportunity for Europe. Welcome Anthropic with open arms. Roll out the red carpet. Visa for all employees. Eu…

If Anthropic moving to Europe was better for Claude, why has Europe not produced Claude?
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