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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by ddtaylor »

jmyeet wrote: post #240
MattDaEskimo wrote: post #137

It feels like federated networks with open-sourced feed algorithms are the best path forward. If AI removes any technical limitations, and automates content management, what's stopping a content creator from owning what they create and distributing it themselves? How can centralization continue to survive?

Why do so many tech people push this "federation is a panacea" idea despite all evidence to the contrary? I don't get it. First, the obvious: if federation was clearly superior, it would've won. No medium since email has been federated and even that's dominated by a handful of players. Running your own email server is... nontrivial. Second, users don't care abou tthis. Like at all. Third, supposedly tech-savvy people…

The utility of federated networks increases a lot when bad actors cause harm to people. What had a minimal value and failed to get attention yesterday when they need was low may be drastically different today when that need is high.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by goatlover »

order-matters wrote: post #487
rurp wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, if a future democratic president starts sending masked government thugs out to assault and kidnap American citizens we all know that 100% of the people who are defending the current ICE atrocities will suddenly be outraged about government tyranny.

a surprising amount of people seem to genuinely believe law enforcement (generally, not just police) is at its core based on discretionary actions guided by their moral values and not a morally neutral action upholding agreed upon contracts that is to say, the law only applies to you if you do "bad" things. and ill be honest, there is a level of truth to this to me. from a practical standpoint, it is infeasible to fo…

The other caveat is if you're a historically persecuted minority group, then those assumptions toward law enforcement don't usually apply. And now the political opposition to the current US administration is also feeling that way.

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Post by AIorNot »

js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

Lets remember that tech bros have been explicitly funding the oppression

25 Million donation to MAGA from Brockman alone! I suspect he is a single issue donor (AI infra above all)

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/867947/o...

Its insane how immoral people can be - anyone can see Trump is a conman

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Post by vaindil »

lingrush4 wrote: post #165
xve wrote: post #128

It looks like some are moving over to upscroll, anyone know anything about upscroll? what other apps are you using? I remember when everyone migrated from MySpace to Facebook and I assumed everyone was going to just keep moving over to the next big thing every few years but that actually didn't happen. Facebook became an institution.

Nothing. These apps are mental poison. They're designed to be addictive. Healthy adults don't use TikTok or any equivalent.

> Healthy adults don't use TikTok or any equivalent.

This is a pretty obnoxious comment. You're welcome to your opinion that the apps are harmful, and I'm inclined to agree with you even though I use TikTok myself, but a blanket statement that only unhealthy people are on the apps is just inflammatory.

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Post by muwtyhg »

parthdesai wrote: post #491
sneak wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Propaganda can be entirely factual. In fact, the best propaganda is.

I think you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not > Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic manipulation of information—including facts, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion, attitudes, and behaviors toward a specific cause, ideology, or agenda.

Sometimes what you choose to show, even if true, can impact how people see a situation or fact. That is what the OP is referring to. Your quote even mentions that propaganda can be made of "facts" and "half-truths" (a half-truth is usually a fact with a portion omitted to change the interpretation of the fact).

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Post by stronglikedan »

culi wrote: post #350
js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

I think history has shown that this is a fruitful intuition to have

As always, it depends. More often than not, the opposite is true, hence the existence of Occam's razor.

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Post by quailfarmer »

mvdtnz wrote: post #532
hammock wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone I know told me they think about this when they see the people who voted for gun bans talk now about how they need guns to defend against unlawful ICE folks

But not a single person has actually done so. Until it can be shown that armed citizens are making a genuine difference against government agents it's still just bluster.

Disagree. The most valuable feature of a fraction of people having guns is that the risk of someone having a gun discourages the most extreme harassment, even if no gun is ever fired.

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Post by mekdoonggi »

order-matters wrote: post #487
rurp wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, if a future democratic president starts sending masked government thugs out to assault and kidnap American citizens we all know that 100% of the people who are defending the current ICE atrocities will suddenly be outraged about government tyranny.

a surprising amount of people seem to genuinely believe law enforcement (generally, not just police) is at its core based on discretionary actions guided by their moral values and not a morally neutral action upholding agreed upon contracts that is to say, the law only applies to you if you do "bad" things. and ill be honest, there is a level of truth to this to me. from a practical standpoint, it is infeasible to fo…

I have never considered this perspective, but this fits very well with people's actions. Thank you for sharing.

To me, the system of codified law and courts makes intuitive sense, and most people misunderstand or abuse the system. But other people's intuitive understanding of the law as you mentioned is a much easier way to understand and actually IS a rough approximation of what the system does.

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