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Post by AuthAuth »

Nicook wrote: post #433
cathyreisenwitz wrote: post #37

“When populists get into power, the rhetorical discourse frames tend to be used to implement successive autocratic measures, such as limiting opposition through electoral manipulation, thwarting the free press, changing the constitution in their own favor, and circumscribing minority, civil, political, and economic rights. Populists are usually not against electoral democracy per se, but rather at odds with liberal d…

"Liberal Democracy" is such a charged word.

Only because its been attacked and dragged through the mud by its enemies on either side.

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Post by arresin »

srean wrote: post #59
edot wrote: post #2

"Natanson said her work had led to 1,169 new sources, “all current or former federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories”. She said she learned information “people inside government agencies weren’t supposed to tell me”, saying that the intensity of the work nearly “broke” her." Wow. So they're going to plug her phone in to whatever cracking tech they have and pull down the names of everyone who has…

In India we have been going through this the last 14 years or so. Look up Stanswamy [0], an octagenarian jailed on the basis of trumped up charges and planted evidence (most likely with the help of Israeli companies). Journalists held in jail for five years without any charges pressed. Same fate for those who criticize the government too vocally. Now pretty much all of the press is but a government press release with…

One country that produces so much misery and suffering in the world.

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Post by BryantD »

estearum wrote: post #557
BryantD wrote: post #548

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"particularly if you don't have knowledge of how the document was acquired."

Correct, and there's no way that the private diary of a still-living daughter of a politician was acquired by any method other than theft. Prosecutors don't need to prove the buyer actually dispositively knew the document was stolen, only that reasonable person would have known it to be such. Which would be obvious in this case.

"No way" is an awfully strong statement. For example, people abandon personal material in storage units which are subsequently auctioned off fairly often.

But I appreciate you iterating on this -- I understand your position and while I disagree with you on the question of what "reasonable" would be in this case, I absolutely think that if I could read minds I would find that Project Veritas staffers at the very least knew the diary was stolen.

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Post by gcuvyvtvv6 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #88

To clarify why it’s aggressive: federal employees have a legal duty to secure classified information, but everyone else does not. Reporters are not federal employees and it’s not illegal for them to have or discuss classified materials. Most of what Snowden leaked was classified, and remains classified to this day , but you and I can read about it on Wikipedia. The government pursued Snowden because he was legally ob…

So what happened with project veritas and the Biden diary?

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Post by raptor99 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #483
Ancapistani wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very much present in "right wing circles", and I've seen exactly zero mention of "militias" being involved in anything whatsoever. They are just as politically radioactive as they've always been. Where are you getting this?

> They are just as politically radioactive as they've always been J6ers attacking cops is currently being celebrated. That's an ad hoc militia. (Tarrio built an actual one.)

Dude, the Capitol Police are the ones that let them ("J6ers") in to begin with. The whole thing was a set up from the get go.

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Post by raptor99 »

rich_sasha wrote: post #441
1123581321 wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think National Guard around polling places would be good for turnout. Voting in advance, from home, is a solution already in place for most.

"Oops, sorry, your postal votes were kept in this warehouse over there. Yeah, the one that went on fire.". There's even a documentary about it called "Succession".

Yes, I hope things similar to this don't happen in this years midterms, like they did in 2020.

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Post by ikrenji »

testing22321 wrote: post #388
riotnrrd wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes an act of Congress to change the name. Trump just made one of his dictatorial proclamations.

It was originally named the department of war, and changing it to defence was just newspeak anyway. Of all the things trump has done, I actually like this one. At least he’s being honest about his intentions for what this department does.

it's not just newspeak though. names matter. an advanced civilization, which USA being the richest country on Earth is, should not strive to get into offensive wars...

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Post by bigfatkitten »

kaonwarb wrote: post #560
snowwrestler wrote: post #88

To clarify why it’s aggressive: federal employees have a legal duty to secure classified information, but everyone else does not. Reporters are not federal employees and it’s not illegal for them to have or discuss classified materials. Most of what Snowden leaked was classified, and remains classified to this day , but you and I can read about it on Wikipedia. The government pursued Snowden because he was legally ob…

An anecdote: someone close to me had written some of the diplomatic cables Snowden leaked. After the leak they (and others) received stern warnings to not access stories about the leaks on their unclassified systems, because those systems were not authorized to access the classified information (in the New York Times).

On the face of it this sounds silly and futile, but there is a good reason for this approach.

The classification system only works if the handling requirements for information that it covers are unambiguous.

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Post by zzzeek »

shadow28 wrote: post #524
zzzeek wrote: post #165

"that the raid was conducted by the justice department and FBI at the request of the “department of war”, the Trump administration’s informal name for the department of defense." uh oh sounds like the Guardian is asking for a raid too

The Guardian is not an American newspaper.

I don't think Nicolas Maduro is American either.
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