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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by mkzet »

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

I regret dearly the upgrade as well. I've turned a beautiful $3500 hardware into a close to Windows Vista machine that frustrates me daily. Just looking at it kills my productivity instantly, I just use full screen for all my apps now.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by mikae1 »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #525
socalgal2 wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The support pages are not for you to contact Apple. They are there for users to help other users. The cynical person would say they are there to get unpaid labor from other users so Apple can spend less on support. If you want to report something to Apple you use the "Feedback Assistant App"

The support pages are exactly this. They're called Level 0 support in most companies internally.

"Just award them with some stars or points or whatever, and they'll be happy."

I wish these people would wake up and spend their time helping peers on a forum for some open source project instead.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by Y-bar »

diskzero wrote: post #199
MyFirstSass wrote: post #21

Does anyone know if Stephen Lemay replacing Dye will potentially "save" the increasing mess that is OSX, at least UX wise, or is it more of a meaningless figurehead swap in a big org? Tahoe is tragically bad by almost every UX measure, and following various Apple subreddits i wonder if they just don't care anymore - since the majority of people are shocked by the amateurishness of both bugs and design choices in the…

I worked on Finder/TimeMachine/Spotlight/iOS at Apple from 2000-2007. I worked closely with Bas Ording, Stephen Lemay, Marcel van Os, Imran Chaudry, Don Lindsey and Greg Christie. I have no experience with any of the designers who arrived in the post-Steve era. During my time, Jony Ive didn't figure prominently in the UI design, although echoes of his industrial design appeared in various ways in the graphic design o…

Thanks for this interesting read.

I’m asking you to judge people’s state of mind here, which is near impossible, but please bear with me…

> Several team members paid dearly in emotional abuse under Steve and decided to leave rather than deal with the environment post Steve's death.

Normally during an event like this there is a change in culture as well which I think we have seen under Cook. So why did they assume that the abusive situation would continue? Jobs was generally known to be harsh to the point of abusive, but if the situation did not change on his death maybe the abuse was equal parts cultural rather than just from the CEO, so why not leave earlier?

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by 8bitsrule »

crapple8430 wrote: post #340
8bitsrule wrote: post #329

Window-resize radii seem to be a fixable problem (make it a user setting!) on many OS's. I can only -wish- that my Linux distro's resize radius wasn't -painfully- small. I've probably wasted HOURS fishing around until the red icon popped up.

Funny, on Linux I just use the special key (normally alt or super) to do all my window moving and resizing. It requires no precision at all and works even in tiling WMs without titlebars. I always found it weird Macos and Windows don't have this and it's a little painful to need to be precise with the mouse.

Could be distro-dependent. Yep I can use a key to move a window ... depending on where I 'grab' ('alt' works anywhere, 'super' only outside the browser window). But horizontal, vertical resizing requires a THIN edge, and diagonal re-sizing requires grabbing a tiny corner (character-sized), keys have no effect.

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Post by klondike_klive »

JoBrad wrote: post #327
crazygringo wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate your frustration, but at the same time what is Apple supposed to do? If it's affecting only a tiny number of users, and you just happen to be an unlucky one, and they don't know how to reproduce it, and you can't help them reproduce it, then what? I think they just have to wait until somebody (such as yourself) is able to figure out with some kind of logging what is happening. E.g. the first question to…

Windows has had a “prevent apps from stealing focus” option for at least a decade. It was one of the things that I still dislike the most about macOS, and Apple can absolutely address this.

Adobe programs were the worst offenders for this in my experience.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by stefanfisk »

droopyEyelids wrote: post #93

I agree it makes using my computer worse, but I'd like to see how far Apple is willing to go here. They won't do perfectly circular windows, that would be crazy— but I think we all know they can go further than this.

I agree that a circle would be too much. But they could at least do a full squircle instead of this half assery so that we don’t have to look at those ugly flat sides. /s

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Post by tgv »

pentagrama wrote: post #353

This feels like a surprisingly good moment for Linux desktops to position themselves as real alternatives and actually gain ground. MacOS Tahoe has been heavily criticized for its UI decisions, especially Liquid Glass, which many people feel actively hurts usability rather than improving it. On the other side, Windows keeps piling on user-hostile features, dark patterns, and friction that increasingly frustrate power…

Linux isn't there (on the desktop), and I doubt it'll ever be. It lacks so much: newbie support, drivers, easy configuration (user friendliness in general), and software. There's so much software that doesn't run on Linux. Linux also lacks mature frameworks that make development for macOS and .NET easy. The only thing desktop linux does well is browsing. That would be enough for most people, but they also have tablets and phones, and no need for a desktop.
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