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Post by Alive-in-2025 »

softwaredoug wrote: post #542
duxup wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

POTUS power has already extended well beyond even congress.

How? Congress has given tremendous discretion to POTUS. This President is actually using it. Congress assumed - it had a legislative veto (any committee could override an agency) - independent agencies existed. So it gave broad authority with those assumed checks. SCOTUS declared legislative veto unconstitutional in 1982. And administrative state is actively going away. So POTUS can do a lot of damage using the law i…

So we had this creeping loss of power to the president over time in the last 20 or 50 years, including investigations in the 1970s or dealing with Nixon. But Congress never really decided this in one big step, it just happened slowly by pushes from the heritage foundation and others. Congress can take back its power. There's a reason why the Republicans are trying to gerrymander the house so the Democrats don't get a majority. It wouldn't just fix it but it would be a start towards starting to block overreach

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Post by triceratops »

nailer wrote: post #555
triceratops wrote: post #263

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> vast amounts of money on cultural programs for countries that didn't want them. I don't understand. How do you give someone money if they don't want it?

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Post by blazespin »

marcosdumay wrote: post #167
dlt713705 wrote: post #62

Next step is invade Venezuela and pump as much oil as possible

The theory that the US government does those wars to keep oil prices high fits the timing way better than the opposite. I still thinks it's missing important details, but the US making wars to get more oil doesn't fit reality at all.

trump literally said he wants venez to return the oil it 'stole' when it nationalized.

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Post by duxup »

softwaredoug wrote: post #542
duxup wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

POTUS power has already extended well beyond even congress.

How? Congress has given tremendous discretion to POTUS. This President is actually using it. Congress assumed - it had a legislative veto (any committee could override an agency) - independent agencies existed. So it gave broad authority with those assumed checks. SCOTUS declared legislative veto unconstitutional in 1982. And administrative state is actively going away. So POTUS can do a lot of damage using the law i…

Tariffs is the obvious example.

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Post by riku_iki »

cosmicgadget wrote: post #454
metalman wrote: post #176

drones are invisible to radar.......or clearly russia(or ukrain) would not be dealing with strikes far from the front lines also, hypersonic missles are now a thing, and the hit faster than any radar or interceptor can register but yes if you were worried about Portugal trying a sneak attack, then clearly they would use the wind turbine shielding attack vector from weaponised shipping cans placed on container ships

Drones are regularly intercepted in the Ukraine war. Patriot batteries have intercepted kinzhals.

Kinzhal is ballistic missile flying on high altitude trajectory, so it is easily visible and somehow interceptable.

Drones and cruise missiles often fly very low, which makes them much harder to detect and intercept.

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Post by riku_iki »

breakyerself wrote: post #119
vntok wrote: post #75

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Yet Sweden did it too ( https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/11/11/why-swe... ) and they quote these defense-related reasons. Are they lying, do you believe that Sweden of all countries is under Trump's direct influence re: wind aversion?

Sweden is worried about a hostile neighbor. They're freaked out enough that they joined NATO after generations of non-alignment. Who are we afraid of? If ICBMs are incoming to the Continental United States the world is ending. Regardless of whether we prevent wind farms in any of the 12,000+ miles of coastline. Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico? People always bend over backwards to justify thi…

> If ICBMs are incoming to the Continental United States the world is ending.

its up to discussion. US has many measures which combined could give them a chance to survive nuclear war, namely: preemptive strike by tridents on enemy's silos(https://thebulletin.org/2017/03/how-us-nuclear-force-moderni...) and anti missile defense.

> Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico?

there is a possibility of submarine launch from that direction.

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Post by mullingitover »

janc_ wrote: post #420
KaiserPro wrote: post #132

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> Offshore wind isn't as cost effective as solar, it's the poster boy for high-cost, low-value renewable energy Its not clear cut. Part of the reason why electricity is so expensive in the UK is that its tied to natural gas prices. some of it is CFD, but most of it is because a lot of our power comes from natural gas. We pay for gas on the open market because we aren't self sufficient for gas any more. Yes solar is c…

There is also a significant cost to moving electricity production from a relatively small number of centralised plants to almost everywhere. Once the infrastructure is adapted to that, costs should normalise again.

> There is also a significant cost to moving electricity production from a relatively small number of centralised plants to almost everywhere.

Correct, but that cost is a negative number.

When the generation happens in the same location where the electricity is used, you don't get the significant transmission losses. You don't have to build and maintain big transformer substations. Obviously this doesn't count for big utility-scale solar arrays. However, every commercial warehouse, for example, could cover its roof and have near-zero transmission losses for most or all of its energy usage.

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Post by UltraSane »

rbanffy wrote: post #530
UltraSane wrote: post #502

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A fully paid off nuclear reactor is extremely profitable because of little fuel cost.

Operating a commercial reactor and keeping it up to regulations isn’t exactly cheap. It requires people, periodic inspections, maintenance, and lots of paperwork to prove you are not cutting corners.

Operating a nuclear reactor is in fact very cheap since there is very little fuel cost.

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Post by saturnite »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #553
insane_dreamer wrote: post #531

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Under other circumstances I might be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt. But when's the last time we saw any action from this admin that wasn't clearly self-dealing or ideologically motivated instead of science-based?

Yup. And Trump very specifically has had a very irrational obsession and hatred for windmills for years now.

He has said that wind turbines cause cancer. He also said they make noise that bothers people and drives whales insane. He has also said that they kill birds, as if their spinning draws birds into the blades. But most of all, he thinks they're ugly.

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Post by cyberax »

gardncl wrote: post #522
cyberax wrote: post #423

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> That is not correct, and doesn't even pass the sniff test. These are numbers from the known far-right organization....err... Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy: https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/publications/studies/cost-o... > Solar is deployed at ~$2/watt and you're saying batteries are increasing that cost 2.5x to 10x? Exactly. And you need closer to 100x for some locations (Germany) for the solar to be reliab…

Those costs with storage are if you want 100% power from solar which is not reality. US alone gets 20% of power from nuclear today, we’re not going around tearing down the base load and adding solar. We’re keeping base load and adding renewables, which include wind. Also if renewables are so dumb and are so problematic why were they 95% of new power generation installed in the US last year?

No, they're not for 100% (it's impossible with the current technology) but in the framework of a renewable grid.

> Also if renewables are so dumb and are so problematic why were they 95% of new power generation installed in the US last year?

Solar is not dumb in some parts of the US, like California or Nevada. It's dumb in the Pacific Northwest or Minnesota.

On the other hand, offshore wind is the _only_ form of renewable energy that is at least a bit reliable due to the inherent diurnal wind patterns near the shores.

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