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Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by mmooss »

I think this is a great insight and great leadership.

While the for-profit world, and many others, have embraced extremes of predatory capitalism, contempt for users, and disinformation, Mozilla has a fantastic opportunity to compete on its unique capabilities:

It's not under pressure to adapt that business culture - no private equity, Wall Street, etc. pushing it; its culture is antithetical to those things; and its culture has always been geared toward service to the community and trust.

The insight and leadership is to find this word, which hasn't been used much (I think many in business or politics would laugh at it), is incredibly powerful and a fundamental social need, and is clear guidance for everyone and every activity at Mozilla and for customers.

Imagine using a company's products and not having to think about them trying to cheat you.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by wtallis »

array_key_first wrote: post #539
wvh wrote: post #308

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I'm still sad they shelved Mozilla Persona due to low adoption. There is a hole in the market around privacy and identity, and Mozilla would be a natural choice to fill it, but it's going to be an uphill battle to get major sites and end users on board. Not a job to be envious about indeed.

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You don't really seem to be trying to fairly describe the problem.

With Pocket, Mozilla forced it on everyone, then two years later they bought the service, then many years later they eventually killed it for everyone. They didn't even try the approach of making it an opt-in extension that users could install if they desired. The unoffensive strategy was obvious all along, and they just didn't choose that route. The concerns of Mozilla partnering with and promoting a proprietary service were easily anticipated, and the solution (buying Pocket) was clearly an option since they did that step eventually.

Yes, Mozilla may be in a hard place trying to diversify and find success with their other ventures. But they're clearly making plenty of unforced errors along the way.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by zx8080 »

aaronax wrote: post #500
Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #483

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It's too late. If I want to interact with modern society, I have to use banking apps, the NHS app, WhatsApp, numerous IoT apps... The list is endless. Many of these will refuse to run on rooted phones. Google and Apple won. We can learn from this and hope the next big thing to come along has some competition from the truly open source side of computing.

A law can fix that!

Sure, for those who has money for lobbying.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by [deleted] »

zug_zug wrote: post #354
gkoberger wrote: post #346

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Well, they have over a billion in the bank. Which is both a ton of money, but also goes away quickly when you're a large company paying lots of money to salaries.

So if you have a billion in the bank, you can collect 5% return and never touch the money. So you get $50m a year to pay enough engineers to make a browser. That's plenty of money if they recognize they need a super lean company with 0 bloat and a few highly paid experts who focus on correctness and not bullshit features.

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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by Seattle3503 »

worik wrote: post #311
reinar wrote: post #287

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> i wonder how linux does it? they don't? There's no company, or rather - a lot of them, Linux kernel moves forward like 80% by corporate contributors. For some of them it's critical part of their infrastructure, some of them need to get their device drivers mainlined, for some of them it's gpl magic at work. Linux desktop experience, however, leaves a lot to be desired. Companies aren't interested to contribute to a…

> Linux desktop experience, however, leaves a lot to be desired. No, it does not. It is a wonderful world fill of variety, choice and diversity

Linux and FF have comparable desktop market share.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by zamadatix »

array_key_first wrote: post #539
wvh wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still sad they shelved Mozilla Persona due to low adoption. There is a hole in the market around privacy and identity, and Mozilla would be a natural choice to fill it, but it's going to be an uphill battle to get major sites and end users on board. Not a job to be envious about indeed.

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In all of these cases, 95% of the comments are by I wouldn't be surprised if 'lame' things like "videos look a lot more vivid in Chrome" (due to the years of lag getting HDR support in Mac/Windows) lost Firefox more users than they gained for maintaining support for MV3 uBO. I.e. fewer than 10% of FF installs have uBO installed, even after Chrome dropped it, but the volume of comments about MV3 would have led you to believe this is all browser makers need to consider to be successful.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by Arathorn »

Yoric wrote: post #552
gkoberger wrote: post #275

Having worked at Mozilla a while ago, the CEO role is one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Success is oddly defined: it's a non-profit (well, a for-profit owned by a non-profit) that needs to make a big profit in a short amount of time. And anything done to make that profit will annoy the community. I hope Anthony leans into what makes Mozilla special. The past few years, Mozilla's business model has been to just m…

FWIW, I remember when Mozilla started experimenting with AI, and that was way ahead of the curve (around 2015, iirc?) But yeah, I agree that buying a great email provider would be a very interesting step. And perhaps partnering with Matrix.

On the Matrix side we would love for Mozilla (or MZLA) to become a paid Matrix hosting provider. Element has ended up focusing on digitally-sovereign govtech (https://element.io/en/sectors) in order to prevail, and it's left a hole in the market.
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