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McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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> Her brother, who works as a cashier, can’t afford meals out at all, she said. The cost of his diabetes medication has increased greatly, to about $200 a month, which she helps him cover. This is an often unacknowledged part of the cost of fast food. It turns susceptible people into diabetics. As a diabetic there is little I can eat there, since I manage it with food not drugs. When I do I get a burger and throw out…

It is unusual to see young people make the choices to not turn into patients. It costs very little to eat mostly lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables, and drink mostly water without carbs dissolved in it, but no business is going to survive selling those things.

It actually costs a lot to do those things. Money is not the only important cost. Social cost and time cost are also important. If you eat all your meals at home alone, while your friends go out to restaurants, that's a cost. If you spend time cooking from scratch instead of using processed food, that's a cost.

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very stupid question, why dont we have a startup say from india that ships container full of diabetes meds directly to people that need them and a person in the USA who handles the distribution. Even with shipping cost included, I dont think it ll be more expensive

Because of the FDA. Lots of meds already come from India, but if you buy them in France or the US, the price difference is 5x.

That’s not because of the FDA, that’s because of CEPS. If the USG negotiated drug prices the way France does, there’d be far less disparity in average pricing. (Given the continual litany of safety, efficacy, and dosage control issues with imported drugs, FDA isn’t regulating them enough, largely because the inspection budget just isn’t there.)

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Where is the next cheap lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables fast food restaurant? I think it's a weird concept of a society where all the parts of it with money are directing people to do one thing - but at the same time, the people are expected to do the exact opposite and it's their own fault if they follow the coercion...

They don't exist because there isn't demand for them, hence no economies of scale, precisely to the point. The point is absolutely right, people do just eat what tastes best, and this food just maximizes for that alone. They do actually, for real, choose to become unhealthy.

That doesn’t make sense in any way. People eat what they learn to eat and what’s available. Choice doesn’t enter into the picture unless something sort of bumps you out of your normal headspace and makes you think about it in the first place.

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Where is the next cheap lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables fast food restaurant? I think it's a weird concept of a society where all the parts of it with money are directing people to do one thing - but at the same time, the people are expected to do the exact opposite and it's their own fault if they follow the coercion...

That describes Indian food trucks, or any of several places selling falafel wraps.

The only place i can get a falafel wrap is 12.50. Alright on a tech salary but way too much for most ppl.

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Where is the next cheap lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables fast food restaurant? I think it's a weird concept of a society where all the parts of it with money are directing people to do one thing - but at the same time, the people are expected to do the exact opposite and it's their own fault if they follow the coercion...

> Where is the next cheap lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables fast food restaurant? Nowhere, because people prefer to pay for excess sat fats, sugar, carbs, and salt. > I think it's a weird concept of a society where all the parts of it with money are directing people to do one thing - but at the same time, the people are expected to do the exact opposite and it's their own fault if they follow the coercion... Eve…

GL-what pills?

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I don't even have a smartphone. Why should I put up with these insane prices even with a discount by tracking, when I can buy the same thing for <1€ at the grocery store that is literally in the same building 10meters away.

Using the app a small soda at McDonald's is ~$1 ($1.14 near me, but that may include the SF soda tax). Less than $2 for a large for those beckoning diabetes. But soda is definitely cheaper elsewhere, and drinks, even soda, are usually a profit center for almost any restaurant, but a loss leader at grocery stores. I remember in the mid 1990s when Coca-Cola and then Pepsi were trying to stem the tide of a decline in sa…

Yup i second this mcdonalds is cheap but they hid it as best as they can. You can minmax a good meal with 7.80 or so.

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That describes Indian food trucks, or any of several places selling falafel wraps.

The only place i can get a falafel wrap is 12.50. Alright on a tech salary but way too much for most ppl.

i just paid $60 for 4 crepes. $12.50 for falafel sounds like a steal these days

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I'm not sure where you're getting numbers but I can't buy just chicken breast for two people for less than $5 at my grocery store unless I buy in bulk. And I do not have the space to store it.

I literally see chicken breast at walmart at 2.57$/lb, that's well below 5$ per two servings. Add some simple mashed potatoes and you're still below 5$ to feed two people in one meal. You can also eat bens, rice, lentils, eggs, add some cheese. There's countless simple, cheap, non processed food around. The reality is that it's "more convenient", or at least it was, because if you had to choose between spending 3$ fo…

Cool. My local grocery store chicken is between $5-6/lb today. $2 if I buy a whole chicken and butcher it myself.

Whatever prices you're seeing are not my reality, living in a major urban area in the United States. Maybe if I bought at the Walmart in Iowa next to a factory farm I could buy it for $2.50/lb, but I can't.

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Some, including myself, were against lockdowns from day 1, and were viciously attacked for it.

But you must admit it was a gamble at the time. My mother got Covid early, before lockdowns. She spent a week in the hospital and almost died. She then had a stroke, she can no longer walk. She also got cancer, and now can barely talk. Please don't tell me it was not deadly dangerous to older folks. If the bird flu comes, and with it a mortality rate of 50%, and there is a vaccine, everybody will be locked down and f…

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Being against lockdowns from day 1 wasn’t some principled pro social stance. Day 1 was when we had no vaccines, no immunity, no treatments, and hospitals were already buckling from basic spread. Opposing mitigation at that moment wasn’t foresight, it was ignoring exponential math. You can absolutely argue the execution was messy and the fallout was real. Lots of people agree with that. But holding up early blanket op…

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This isn't about the later stuff. My statement was that being against lockdowns is an anti-social viewpoint and that you were rightly attacked for being against them. Nothing you've written challenges that. In a spherical vacuum of a society with no left right blue or China, no Epstein files, a pathogen has been introduced to your society. You don't know anything about it at all. It could be Ebola, it could be a total nothing buger. What do you do in response? Do you stay open and infect your populace, or do you lock down? It's a huge disruption, to everything and everyone. In the face of the unknown, what do you chose to do?

In the face of not knowing something, do we try and be safe, or do we say YOLO and fuck everyone who's role puts them in harms way?

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