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China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Post by wahnfrieden »

M95D wrote: post #546
yanhangyhy wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s possible. LGBT issues and religion in China fall into a category of “you can exist, but don’t promote it.” There are cities, bars, and celebrities known for being LGBT, but the government never officially acknowledges them and doesn’t allow public advocacy. Discussion among ordinary people is fine. Some other places might not agree with this approach, but for me and most Chinese people, we really like it. In Chi…

This seems more reasonable than most other countries where LGBT advocacy / propaganda / public exposure and circus draws negative opinions and more discrimination and aggression.

He is saying that LGBT advocacy/public exposure (what LGBT "propaganda" have you seen?) results in caging. Isn't that worse? How is caging better than negative opinions?

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Post by hollerith »

yndoendo wrote: post #330
yanhangyhy wrote: post #233

I don’t know how it is in other countries, but nearly thirty years ago when I was in elementary school, a Chinese propaganda slogan stuck with me: “If you want to get rich, build roads first; have fewer children, plant more trees.” Every part of that slogan has been put into action, continuously, for decades. Although low birth rates have now become a problem, back then it seemed like a solution. Xi Jinping may be a…

Are low birth rates a problem? The job market keeps being published about lack of employment. Recent was this UK having a 1,200,000 plus college graduates and less than 100,000 job placements. The USA market is also bad with very limited economic mobility based on years past. Is the job market too restrictive with maximize profit over maximum knowledge transfer and upkeep? Not properly balancing older and newer labor…

>Is the job market too restrictive with maximize profit over maximum knowledge transfer and upkeep?

Victor Shih (China scholar) says that employers in China mostly don't care about profit margins nor do the banks that lend to them.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

hollerith wrote: post #562
yndoendo wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are low birth rates a problem? The job market keeps being published about lack of employment. Recent was this UK having a 1,200,000 plus college graduates and less than 100,000 job placements. The USA market is also bad with very limited economic mobility based on years past. Is the job market too restrictive with maximize profit over maximum knowledge transfer and upkeep? Not properly balancing older and newer labor…

>Is the job market too restrictive with maximize profit over maximum knowledge transfer and upkeep? Victor Shih (China scholar) says that employers in China mostly don't care about profit margins nor do the banks that lend to them.

SOEs maybe, but not Chinese private companies.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Post by [deleted] »

andrewflnr wrote: post #541
z2 wrote: post #313

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No. That list shows coercive or authoritarian behavior, not classical imperialism. Imperialism means establishing colonies or directly ruling foreign territories for economic extraction. China today doesn’t occupy or govern other sovereign states. The South China Sea, Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang, and Taiwan are all disputes within--except Taiwan + the South China Sea--undisputed national boundaries.[1] Belt and Road l…

You can use whatever word you want for naked ambition to conquer people who don't want to be part of your country. I'm still not going to respect it.

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Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Post by hollerith »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #563
hollerith wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is the job market too restrictive with maximize profit over maximum knowledge transfer and upkeep? Victor Shih (China scholar) says that employers in China mostly don't care about profit margins nor do the banks that lend to them.

SOEs maybe, but not Chinese private companies.

Whether a private company can get a loan however depends more on whether it is in a sector that Beijing wants to encourage than on the company's expected profit margin or expected return on investment--according to Shih.

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Post by simsla »

kingkawn wrote: post #502
simsla wrote: post #466

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European here. One of the problems is that many of our society's systems are predicated on a growing population. Social security and pensions, for example, are structured not unlike a pyramid scheme: for every old person we should have more than one working young person. People take more than they give. Fixing that will be painful, but possible. More worrying is how many countries' birth rates have fallen below the r…

Neither Japan nor Korea are in SE Asia

Damn, I goofed, thanks for calling that out. Can't edit the comment anymore unfortunately.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Post by grumpy-de-sre »

jnurmine wrote: post #547
simsla wrote: post #466

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European here. One of the problems is that many of our society's systems are predicated on a growing population. Social security and pensions, for example, are structured not unlike a pyramid scheme: for every old person we should have more than one working young person. People take more than they give. Fixing that will be painful, but possible. More worrying is how many countries' birth rates have fallen below the r…

Exactly. In the current pension system (at least the ones in the Nordics), the new generation pays for the old generation. This mechanism is broken, as it expects (as you pointed out) an ever-growing population, which is of course unrealistic. Fixing [*] the broken pension system in a sustainable way is politically unpalatable and seems to have been so for decades. Lifting the pension age is the only "innovative" act…

Might aswell outsource the responsibility of fund management to highly regulated third parties and you're basically describing Australia's superannuation scheme.

Issue is due to the same politics as everyone else, Australia is having trouble reigning in the state pension (ideally in this scheme meant as a fallback to provide a minimum subsistence level).

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Post by taeric »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #414
taeric wrote: post #138

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I think the basic trencher would almost certainly still count as manual labor? Nobody is expecting that they are out there digging with bare hands.

> Nobody is expecting that they are out there digging with bare hands. Most of these ditches are dug out by the locals with shovels. We're talking subsistence farmers here in areas where people are more or less trying to live off the land. Their hands and some primitive tools is all that's there.

I confess that is a little surprising to me. Such that I can agree it would be a worthwhile endeavor to get them better equipment.

I would still call people using bigger stuff to be doing manual labor. For the same reason that using a lawn mower is still a manual labor job.

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Post by Bolwin »

kakacik wrote: post #457
vbezhenar wrote: post #453

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That's why democracy is wrong path. Crowd is stupid and easy to manipulate. There should be hierarchy. 100 men should vote for one who will rule over them. 100 level one rulers should vote for one who will rule over 10 000 men. And so on. Imagine all Amazon workers to vote for Amazon CEO. It does not happen.

Interesting idea. Trying to find an angle where it could all go wrong but it seems vastly better than crap we get now. More personal responsibility it seems. I would add that rotate those every 2 years maybe. But then there needs to be mechanism for some long term efforts to sustain velocity.

This just sounds like middle managent hell.

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Post by yanhangyhy »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #540
yanhangyhy wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s possible. LGBT issues and religion in China fall into a category of “you can exist, but don’t promote it.” There are cities, bars, and celebrities known for being LGBT, but the government never officially acknowledges them and doesn’t allow public advocacy. Discussion among ordinary people is fine. Some other places might not agree with this approach, but for me and most Chinese people, we really like it. In Chi…

You like that people are caged for publicly acknowledging LGBT? It’s hard to understand that, because it’s not just that it’s lowkey there, it’s something people are under threat of caging for. (Yes it is coming under threat of caging in the US too now.)

I totally support LGBT rights, but china is not the only country in the world and US is very good at color revolution. Many of the programs related to feminists and LGBT rights turn outs to involved with people and founds connect to USA. So until USA is collapsed, NO.
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