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Go to parties.... One of the 5 biggest party days is this Friday, and with it being on a Friday it will be more intense. A solid 3 nights of good parties. That's all you have to do, I do not understand how this is lost on people. Go to parties and have fun and meet people.
But parties aren't fun. They're a chore.
OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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> HIPAA anybody? Maybe. Going on a tangent: in theory GMail has access to lots of similar information---just by having approximately everyone's emails. Does HIPAA apply to them? If not, why not? > If you give people something that seems to be a listening ear they will unburden themselves on that ear regardless of the implementation details of the ear. Cf. Eliza, or the Rogerian therapy it (crudely) mimics.
> Maybe. Going on a tangent: in theory GMail has access to lots of similar information---just by having approximately everyone's emails. Does HIPAA apply to them? If not, why not? That's a good question. Intuitively: because it doesn't attempt to impersonate a medical professional, nor does it profess to interact with you on the subject matter at all. It's a communications medium, not an interactive service.
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Sure but your therapist is also monetizing your pain for his own gain. Either A.I therapy works (e.g can provide good mental relief) or it doesn't. I tend to think it's gonna be amazing at those things talking from experience (very rough week with my mom's health deterioriating fast, did a couple of sessions with Gemini that felt like I'm talking to a therapist). Perhaps it won't work well for hard issues like real m…
Depression, ADHA, Schizophrenia are not a "very rough week"
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
#564This is not suprising at all. Having gone through therapy a few years back, I would have had a chat with LLMs if I was in a poor mental health situation. There is no other system that is available at scale, 24x7 on my phone. A chat like this is not a solution though, it is an indicator that our societies have issues is large parts of our population that we are unable to deal with. We are not helping enough people. To…
> There is no other system that is available at scale, 24x7 on my phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_and_Crisis_Lifeline
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"One may think that something is better than nothing, but a bot enabling your destructive impulses is indeed worse than nothing." And how would a layman know the difference? If i desperately need help with mental item x and i have no clue how to get help, am very very ashamed for even mentioning to ask for help about mental item x or there are actually no resources available, i will turn to anything else than nothing…
I think you're being too generous to the idea that it could help without any evidence. If we assume that there's therapeutic value to bringing your problems out then a diary is a better tool. And if we believe that it's the feedback what's helping, well, we have cases of ChatGPT encouraging people's psychosis. We know that a layman often doesn't know the difference between what's helpful and what isn't - that's why l…
Plenty of examples where people try and stay sane by talking to inert objects in desperation.
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> Maybe. Going on a tangent: in theory GMail has access to lots of similar information---just by having approximately everyone's emails. Does HIPAA apply to them? If not, why not? That's a good question. Intuitively: because it doesn't attempt to impersonate a medical professional, nor does it profess to interact with you on the subject matter at all. It's a communications medium, not an interactive service.
Doesn't GMail show ads that are context aware? (I'm not sure.)
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A bit of a counterpoint. I've done 3 years of therapy with an amazing professional. I can't exaggerate how much good it did; I'm a different person, I'm not an anxious person anymore. I think I have a good idea of how good human therapy is. I was discharged about 2 years ago. Last Saturday, I was a little distressed about a love-hate relationship that I have with one of the things that I work with, so I tried using A…
You learned skills your trained therapist guided you to develop over a three year period of professional interaction. These skills likely influenced your interaction with this product.
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> if I paste a 30 line (heated) chat conversation between my wife and I i can't imagine how violated i would feel if i found out my partner was sending our private conversations to a nonprivate LLM chatbot. it's not a friend with a sense of care; it's a text box whose contents are ingested by a corporation with a vested interest in worsening communication between humans. scary stuff.
My partner is ok with it *
Re: OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
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>Yes. Otherwise we're accepting "OpenAI wants to do this so we should quietly get out of the way". I think it’s fair to demand that they label/warn about the intended usage, but policing it is distopic. Do car manufacturers immediately call the police when the speed limit is surpassed? Should phone manufacturers stop calls when the conversation deals with illegal topics? I’d much rather regulation went the exact oppo…
Those analogies are too imprecise. Cars do have AEB (auto emergency braking) systems, for example, and the NHTSA is requiring all new cars to include it by 2029. If there are clear risks, it's normal to expect basic guardrails. > I’d much rather regulation went the exact opposite way, seriously limiting the amount of analysis they can run over conversations, particularly when content is not deanonimised. > If there’s…
That's cool, but it is cool because it happens on device.
Analysing your conversations for certain patterns, and either cross referencing between conversations or keeping some sort of strike system, is the exact kind of feature that is a bad turn away from a dystopia.
Hopefully local llm's get good enough that we can avoid this issue altogether.