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Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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Buy them a Kagi membership and switch them to that.

A lot of people want to complain but don't want to pay (not saying that is OP, just generally)

to be fair, I had a Kagi subscription for a year, but I recently cancelled it (mainly because I'm not working now and need to cut monthly expenses). I'll probably rejoin eventually, but I can understand why people cut these things out or won't do it. Recurring monthly expenses can be hard.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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There's no AI preview in that screenshot, so it's not everything that's wrong with Google Search.

search: "coffee is mostly water" "No, coffee is not mostly water. That appears to be a misconception based on a popular television show. Coffee is actually about 98% water."

Interesting. I did this google search and i get this:

"Yes, coffee is predominantly water , with a standard cup of brewed coffee being about 98% water and the remaining 1-2% being solids like caffeine and antioxidants. Because water forms the vast majority of coffee, its quality is crucial for a good cup and it contributes to your daily fluid intake"

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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post #311

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Or give you results that are completely unrelated and even try to convince you that what you’re trying to search doesn’t exist. Studied with a guy from old Soviet Union, they were educated in a way that every modern invention had a Soviet inventor. ChatGPT can create an individualized reality and truth for everyone depending on which advertiser’s target demographic they fit in.

Like how americans are convinced they invented the telephone because the patent office said so?

Just like how the history is written by the victorious, every nation tends to accept certain truths as their truth.

exclusions apply, ask your doctor if the truth is right for you.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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post #58

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You also should just stop using Google Search. DuckDuckGo is solid, or if you don't want to use search results from Bing's index, I've been very happy with Brave Search.

It's solid, I use it 95% of the time, that 5% Google usually still disappoints. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=midjourney&ia=web -> Hmm, midjourney the AI thingy is not even there for me! Just https://www.midjourney.com which is not really clear on what it is. Midjourney is at Midjourney.online, which is not even on the first page. So Argualbly Google is still better. What a world. Btw, I search DDG from the Firefo…

> I search DDG from the Firefox bar, and that does not let me copy the URL anymore

Yeah, I just noticed too. Go to Settings->Search there's a checkbox just below the default search engine. Uncheck that. Should be something along the lines of "Show search terms in the address bar in search results" (sorry for any errors in the translation, my browser's language is not English).

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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post #524

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As a user, I'm still baffled that the interface to view and manage the apps I have installed on the system - which is 90 out of 100 times why I'm opening the play store - is tucked away in some obscure corner of the app. The other 10 times, it's because I want to install some specific app that I already know and I just want to get to the page of that exact app - either through a direct link or through the store's sea…

Opening the App Store to download a bunch of apps - in general - is probably the #1 thing people are doing when they open the App Store. Of course, installing a specific app is a top use case. But I think you're just not the average user. Lots of people open the App Store frequently to just check out what's available. ~10 years ago I would do this all the time. It's fun, kind of like surfin' the net was back in the o…

is there actually any data to back up the claim that the "#1 thing people do" is open the app store to see what's available besides your singular story about what you used to do a decade ago when all of this was much more novel in general?

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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They do the same thing on the Play Store, for example I just searched for Firefox and the first result is a sponsored spot for Opera. Does Apple do that on the App Store? A funnier example: searching for Amazon gives Temu as the first result. Searching for Temu gives Shein as the first result. Searching for Shein gives Shein as the first result! ...but only because they outbid everyone else for the ad spot on their o…

As a user, I'm still baffled that the interface to view and manage the apps I have installed on the system - which is 90 out of 100 times why I'm opening the play store - is tucked away in some obscure corner of the app. The other 10 times, it's because I want to install some specific app that I already know and I just want to get to the page of that exact app - either through a direct link or through the store's sea…

> the interface to view and manage the apps I have installed on the system

Why do you go to the play store to view and manage installed apps? If you swipe up from home screen you should get to the app drawer. Or Settings > Apps.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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They do the same thing on the Play Store, for example I just searched for Firefox and the first result is a sponsored spot for Opera. Does Apple do that on the App Store? A funnier example: searching for Amazon gives Temu as the first result. Searching for Temu gives Shein as the first result. Searching for Shein gives Shein as the first result! ...but only because they outbid everyone else for the ad spot on their o…

As a user, I'm still baffled that the interface to view and manage the apps I have installed on the system - which is 90 out of 100 times why I'm opening the play store - is tucked away in some obscure corner of the app. The other 10 times, it's because I want to install some specific app that I already know and I just want to get to the page of that exact app - either through a direct link or through the store's sea…

As an aside, am I the only one who has problems finding the Play Store icon amidst the various Google tools? All these icons look the same. They're basically all red/green/yellow/blue.

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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post #373

One of my "sales pitches" is "I can find answers online, I know kung-fu". I've been using internet since '98, and I somehow developed this elusive skill of knowing how to navigate all these ads, seo farms, paid content, murky websites, and getting straight to the answer, no matter what the question was. For a long time I didn't thought of that as a special power. I thought it was natural, like driving a car, or speak…

Try DuckDuck Go, it performs significantly better than Google for me

Re: Everything that's wrong with Google Search in one image

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post #524

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As a user, I'm still baffled that the interface to view and manage the apps I have installed on the system - which is 90 out of 100 times why I'm opening the play store - is tucked away in some obscure corner of the app. The other 10 times, it's because I want to install some specific app that I already know and I just want to get to the page of that exact app - either through a direct link or through the store's sea…

It's simply optimized to upsell you on other apps when you are there for a different purpose. Just how supermarkets are designed, IKEA is the most egregious, they try to force you to look at and tempt you with a whole load of other products on your way to getting what you came for.

But you go to IKEA for IKEA and get IKEA. With the phone stores or search engines you go to them for $result and you get $something_else.

It's similar but not quite the same. Even the parallel with the physical world fails us here, IKEA can't put everyone's desired product at the entrance. Google can.

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