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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

TylerE wrote: post #522
StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #489

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It’s good Android has stable 120Hz then. But if you are happy overpaying for a mediocre phone, that’s your right. I did it once. I’m not planning to do it ever again.

No android device I've ever used has a stable ANYTHING performance-wise.

Happy to know which one you have used then because all the ones I have used in the past from Google, OnePlus and Xiaomi have been rock solid.

It’s simple my current iPhone 13 is the second worst phone I have ever owned after the 3S I had a decade before. It’s also the most expensive in a very Apple-like fashion.

iOS is a sorry mess. It manages to be both annoyingly limited and awfully buggy.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

TylerE wrote: post #521
StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #481

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Could you remind me which brand still sell a 60Hz screen on their 1000$ phone?

Uh, every top model iPhone since the 13 is 120hz.

The non Pro phone is 60Hz despite being more than 1000€ here. I wish it was a joke but Apple ripoff knows no limit sadly. Meanwhile, most competitors phones half that price have 120Hz.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by buu700 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #72
dakiol wrote: post #57

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> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

> If I'm going to the cinema or baseball or any other event... I don't have it in any calendar. If I don't have it in my calendar, it doesn't happen. I would fail to actually go to the event otherwise.

I'm in between. I do use a calendar for pre-planned personal outings, but more for blocking off dates/times than tracking details. If I hide work meetings, pretty much my entire calendar is just a bunch of events generically named "Balls" with no other information. Occasionally I'll use someone's name or the name of a travel destination.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by tgma »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

What good is optimizing for the open web when the Pixels lack a sufficiently fast processor for bloated web pages. Haven't tried the 10 yet, but Pixel 9 is sufficiently slow that you can see tearing artifacts when you scroll. This is at least two or three years behind the modern Qualcomm in Samsungs let alone Apple.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by baby_souffle »

overfeed wrote: post #188
mrintegrity wrote: post #139

My dream is to have a phone like this that supports thunderbolt host mode, runs grapheneos or similar and can drive a couple of displays via usb-c docking station. With the memory and CPU this phone could easily replace my work laptop (vscode and ssh for the most part). Sadly I haven't found any phone that would make this possible (Samsung Dex doesn't count because it's proprietary)

> My dream is to have a phone like this that supports thunderbolt host mode, runs grapheneos or similar and can drive a couple of displays via usb-c docking station Sounds like you're thinking of the stock Pixel 10. Google worked with Samsung to bring the Dex experience to upstream Android, and their Linux VM work is almost fully baked in Android 15. Running VSCode and ssh can be done today with a Pixel phone plugged…

I think they're waiting for the the big point release this fall.

When they rolled out 16 earlier this spring almost nothing changed from the user's perspective because it was just shipping a lot of the underlying supporting apis that aren't exposed via user accessible things at this point.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by tshaddox »

shaklee3 wrote: post #417
tshaddox wrote: post #375

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This is because iPhone photos are ubiquitous which causes photos from less common phones to stand out. And the less common phones likely optimize for this A/B test scenario by e.g. increasing contrast and saturation. Meanwhile Apple likely has little to no interest in optimizing for A/B tests with minor smartphone players, and instead optimizes merely for delivering satisfying photos in the widest range of scenarios.…

That's quite an interesting way to explain why Apple does poorly in blind tests. The real reason though is that Apple's cameras are just not as good, but I suppose it's easier to explain away by making up biases.

My and your personal preferences for one camera over the other isn't the issue. Nor am I claiming that one is objectively better than another. My point is that blind tests (between two cameras of similar quality) are worthless simply because they don't reflect the preferences the test-taker would actually have given extensive use of each camera.

The issues with blind tests like this are well-known. I assure you I have no interest in persuading you to alter your own preferences.

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Post by gruez »

herpderperator wrote: post #511

Have they fixed the ability to easily transfer your existing Android data to the new Android phone? I find that every time I upgrade, despite choosing the options to transfer apps/settings, that 90% of the apps I open just greet me with the login screen and I have to set everything up completely from scratch. I remember maybe a handful of apps, I think one was Uber, that were able to transfer everything including the…

Blame the app developers, not google. They specifically added a backup/restore mode for device to device transfer, that bypasses backup blacklists[1]. However apps can still opt out by registering a backup agent, and returning no data.

[1] https://developer.android.com/identity/data/testingbackup

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ajross »

v5v3 wrote: post #501
paulddraper wrote: post #478

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Apple is much more strict on app tracking (and apps in general).

Yes. As an example I think Androids have a single device ID which is given to all apps. But iOS has a per app device ID.

There is no device ID, only ones tied to a user login on a phone, and the app must request a permission to get it. You can, for example, know that the user ID (which you obviously also need to have a permission to retrieve), is being used on the same device as was used to access your service in the past. Or you can know that this particular otherwise-anonymous user/device combination is being used again. I'm pretty sure that's likewise possible on iOS, but folks can chime in.

And of course there are guidelines that disallow most of the abuse scenarios I suspect people want to imagine: https://developer.android.com/identity/user-data-ids

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by gruez »

vader1 wrote: post #303
leeoniya wrote: post #273

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does this mean no GrapheneOS either?

GrapheneOS found a way to provide eSIM support, but it depends on installing a patched version of Google's proprietary LPA app. I don't know how future-proof that is..

you don't even need google's proprietary esim app. OpenEUICC works fine if you grant it priv-app permissions.

[1] https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC/

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by gruez »

vader1 wrote: post #271

The lack of a physical SIM tray is just one more way to lock users in Google's walled garden. eSIM support is not implemented in Android itself (AOSP), but part of the proprietary GMS package. This means Google-free Android forks like LineageOS will be unusable on the Pixel 10 series :-(

>The lack of a physical SIM tray is just one more way to lock users in Google's walled garden.

Seems to be US only? iPhone also has the same thing, so it's probably something that US carriers are pushing, not something from OEMs.

>eSIM support is not implemented in Android itself (AOSP), but part of the proprietary GMS package. This means Google-free Android forks like LineageOS will be unusable on the Pixel 10 series :-(

OpenEUICC works fine

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