Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

lock.cmpxchg8b.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

561–570 of 968 posts

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#561

Post by analbliss »

elric wrote: post #488
technion wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really should be recognised just how many people are watching Cloudflare interstitials on nearly every site these days (and I totally get why this happens) yet making a huge amount of noise about Anubis on a very small amount of sites.

I hit Cloudflare's garbage about as much as I hit Anubis. With the difference that far more sites use Cloudflare than Anubis, thus Anubis is far worse at triggering false positives.

So yes, it is like having a stalker politely open the door for you as you walk into a shop, because they know very well who you are.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#562

Post by pkal »

Superficial comment regarding the catgirl, I don't get why some people are so adamant and enthusiastic for others to see it, but if you like me find it distasteful and annoying, consider copying these uBlock rules: https://sdf.org/~pkal/src+etc/anubis-ublock.txt. Brings me joy to know what I am not seeing whenever I get stopped by this page :)

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#563

Post by inferiorhuman »

alibarber wrote: post #545
Pinus wrote: post #463

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m planning a trip to France right now, and it seems like half the websites in that country (for example, ratp.fr for Paris public transport info) require me to check a CloudFlare checkbox to promise that I am a human. And of those that don’t, quite a few just plain lock me out...

It's not hard to understand why though surely? You might have to show a passport when you enter France, and have your baggage and person (intrusively) scanned if you fly there, for much the same reason. People, some of them in positions of government in some nation states want to cause harm to the services of other states. Cloudflare was probably the easiest tradeoff for balancing security of the service with accessi…

The antagonists in this case are not state sponsored terrorists, instead it's AI bros DDoSing the internet.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#564

Post by rob_c »

analbliss wrote: post #561
elric wrote: post #488

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hit Cloudflare's garbage about as much as I hit Anubis. With the difference that far more sites use Cloudflare than Anubis, thus Anubis is far worse at triggering false positives.

So yes, it is like having a stalker politely open the door for you as you walk into a shop, because they know very well who you are.

[flagged]

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#565

Post by account42 »

johnklos wrote: post #244

This is a usually technical crowd, so I can't help but wonder if many people genuinely don't get it, or if they are just feigning a lack of understanding to be dismissive of Anubis. Sure, the people who make the AI scraper bots are going to figure out how to actually do the work. The point is that they hadn't, and this worked for quite a while. As the botmakers circumvent, new methods of proof-of-notbot will be made…

If you are going to rely on security through obscurity there are plenty of ways to do that that won't block actual humans because they dare use a non-mainstream browser. You can also do it without displaying cringeworthy art that is only there to get people to pay for the DRM solution you are peddling - that shit has no place in the open source ecosystem.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#566

Post by anarki8 »

Article might be a bit shallow, or maybe my understanding of how Anubis works is incorrect?

1. Anubis makes you calculate a challenge.

2. You get a "token" that you can use for a week to access the website.

3. (I don't see this being considered in the article) "token" that is used too much is rate limited. Calculating a new token for each request is expensive.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#567

Post by account42 »

technion wrote: post #362
johnklos wrote: post #244

This is a usually technical crowd, so I can't help but wonder if many people genuinely don't get it, or if they are just feigning a lack of understanding to be dismissive of Anubis. Sure, the people who make the AI scraper bots are going to figure out how to actually do the work. The point is that they hadn't, and this worked for quite a while. As the botmakers circumvent, new methods of proof-of-notbot will be made…

It really should be recognised just how many people are watching Cloudflare interstitials on nearly every site these days (and I totally get why this happens) yet making a huge amount of noise about Anubis on a very small amount of sites.

Cloudflare's solution works without javascript enabled unless the website turns up the scare level to max or you are on an IP with already bad reputation. Anubis does not.

But at the end of the day both are shit and we should not accept either. That includes not using one as an excuse for the other.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#569

Post by terribleperson »

palata wrote: post #512
chmod775 wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't need to. Thanks to asymmetric cryptography governments can in theory provide you with a way to prove you are a human (or of a certain age) without: 1. the government knowing who you are authenticating yourself to 2. or the recipient learning anything but the fact that you are a human 3. or the recipient being able to link you to a previous session if you authenticate yourself again later The EU is trying t…

But I don't get how is goes for spam or scrapping: if I can pass the test "anonymously", then what prevents me from doing it for illegal purposes? I get it for age verification: it is difficult for a child to get a token that says they are allowed to access porn because adults around them don't want them to access porn (and even though one could sell tokens online, it effectively makes it harder to access porn as a c…

One option I can think of is that the attesting authority might block you if you're behaving badly.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

#570

Post by akk0 »

JimDabell wrote: post #527
overfeed wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The bots will eventually be indistinguishable from humans Not until they get issued government IDs they won't! Extrapolating from current trends, some form of online ID attestation (likely based on government-issued ID[1]) will become normal in the next decade, and naturally, this will be included in the anti-bot arsenal. It will be up to the site operator to trust identities signed by the Russian government. 1. De…

> some form of online ID attestation (likely based on government-issued ID[1]) will become normal in the next decade I believe this is likely, and implemented in the right way, I think it will be a good thing. A zero-knowledge way of attesting persistent pseudonymous identity would solve a lot of problems. If the government doesn’t know who you are attesting to, the service doesn’t know your real identity, services c…

> A social media site can ban an abusive user without them being able to simply register a new account.

This is an absolutely gargantuan-sized antifeature that would single-handedly drive me out of the parts of the internet that choose to embrace this hellish tech.

Post reply on HN