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Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by protocolture »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #463
alt227 wrote: post #427

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As usual 'the other side' is exactly what we all knew it was. It is people who dont understand technology getting frothed up by media scares into believing government promises about censorship. > They have said repeatedly they will always ensure a non id method is ensured And you believed them?

Careful I think you might be choking on all that strawman. Terminally online types complain all day about how social media is terrible and needs to be regulated until the moment actual legislation is being passed then they complain about that instead.

>Terminally online types complain all day about how social media is terrible and needs to be regulated until the moment actual legislation is being passed then they complain about that instead.

Even if that were the case, demanding a solution doesn't mean accepting a bad solution.

"My dog is hungry" "Well I killed your dog and it no longer experiences hunger, please clap"

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

isaacremuant wrote: post #504
OhioMan2943 wrote: post #470

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I don't want privacy to be gone. I want a free internet to still exist for those who are educated enough to bypass firewalls and monitors, I would kill to have a knowledge gated internet again, but I want barriers to harm for children. Why do we card kids for R18+ games but not the internet. It's fundamentally stupid and unhealthy for our society. If everyone moved back to non algorithmically addictive forums and sel…

Your censorship is fundamentally stupid and harmful for society. You're an authoritarian throughout and through and want to impose your tyranny through "keep you safe" like every tyrant. You're the useful supporter and as much to blame as the corrupt politicians who enact these things. Who on earth are you that you want to tell everyone else how to live. So conceited that you think you should rule over other people's…

You're so morally detached from the situation it's borderline sociopathic. Keep living your techno libertarian larp fantasy, I'm sure it's so much more important than the real world.

Peoples lives aren't just hypothetical moral scenarios to point score on. Inaction has had and will continue to have real world consequences that you refuse to address. Don't complain about how bad the world is if you wont give up a single inch of your life to accomodate others and made their childhood in this sociopathic modern hellscape any easier. Have you even seen how much more stunted this generation is in ideology, emotion and idealism. If a non regulated internet worked for children we wouldn't be here.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by johnisgood »

johnisgood wrote: post #539
insane_dreamer wrote: post #533

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... to change the browser extension settings, disable the extension, or use another browser, not to mention that uBlock isn't available on iOS

Yup. But apparently it seems like it might work for him. I do not know. They are probably smart enough to disable the extension. There are many other, fool-proof ways though.

If anyone has the patience and knowledge, you may chime in. :)

I remember I read a lot of these methods before here on HN. Some were pretty cool, and somewhat old-school yet effective.

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

AlexandrB wrote: post #55
armchairhacker wrote: post #35

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https://nebula.tv seems like it's basically that, just curated podcasts. Although 3blue1brown isn't on there.

Nebula is nice, but has a very specific ideological leaning. It's basically paid "breadtube".

What leaning is that? And how can I confirm?

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Post by isaacremuant »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #562
isaacremuant wrote: post #504

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Your censorship is fundamentally stupid and harmful for society. You're an authoritarian throughout and through and want to impose your tyranny through "keep you safe" like every tyrant. You're the useful supporter and as much to blame as the corrupt politicians who enact these things. Who on earth are you that you want to tell everyone else how to live. So conceited that you think you should rule over other people's…

You're so morally detached from the situation it's borderline sociopathic. Keep living your techno libertarian larp fantasy, I'm sure it's so much more important than the real world. Peoples lives aren't just hypothetical moral scenarios to point score on. Inaction has had and will continue to have real world consequences that you refuse to address. Don't complain about how bad the world is if you wont give up a sing…

You're a piece of human garbage and call me morally detached. Go f yourself.

Techno libertarian fantasy? Dude. You don't know anything about history. Get some life experience. Fight real injustice some day and come back to me. Have you ever engaged in politics or been at a protest?

> Inaction has had and will continue to have real world consequences that you refuse to address.

Inaction is better than action when the action is harmful theater.

> Don't complain about how bad the world is if you wont give up a single inch of your life to accomodate others and made their childhood in this sociopathic modern hellscape any easier

You're a predator. See how easy it is to paint scary pictures? Modern hellscape? Lol

> Have you even seen how much more stunted this generation is in ideology, emotion and idealism. If a non regulated internet worked for children we wouldn't be here.

You're a zealot. Really. You've made no arguments but appeals to emotions and attacks. We're done. We're not scared of you, your accusations or your fake morals. You're exactly like a religious zealot coming to oppress us for our greater good. No one asked you. Our speech, bodies and mind, our choice. Over my fucking dead body, authoritarian parasite.

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Post by dvdkon »

squigz wrote: post #332
zippo_the_zippo wrote: post #255

YouTube Kids is exempt from the ban, this one should have been banned first because the sheer amount of smoothbrain content. Channels like cocomelon and AI-generated songs with weird visuals are played on infinite loop with a mobile stand holding the phone in front of the child's pram while the parents pay no attention- and the children are hooked onto it as if they are hypnotized. These videos in early stage of chil…

Aren't parents like that going to ignore the development of their child anyway?

Yes, and I agree that bad parenting is the real issue, but I also have to acknowledge that leaving children unsupervised will have better results if they don't have the option of just watching a screen.

That said, I don't see any bans changing this, parents will just give young children access to their own "adult" YouTube account.

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Post by skeezyboy »

wbronitsky wrote: post #505
skeezyboy wrote: post #494

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aggressive conduct lol, i think youre getting away with yourself there. how come adults are immune to it? i mean youre on social media right this second (decrying it but lets ignore that), how hasnt it affected you in that way? or is this "good" social media?

The post you are trying to refute has a source which is a study that found "It can obstruct the ability to interpret emotions, fuel aggressive conduct, and harm one's psychological health in general."

so why are you on social media right now if its so dangerous?

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #46

A couple months ago, I saw people everywhere online (including HN) saying they love the idea of social media bans for kids. They love the idea of keeping people under 18 safe from the dangers of porn and mature games and other unclean things as well. Now governments around the world are acting in unison to happily give those people what they want, and people are suddenly confused and pissed that these laws mean you n…

>People who asked for social media bans for kids got what they wanted.

These are also the people who have essentially outsourced a lot of upbringing of their kids to the govt. They couldn't be bothered with the nuances of the lives their kids lead.

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Post by baq »

goopypoop wrote: post #556
baq wrote: post #527

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Censorship is quite strictly defined to be done by the government. Not allowing kids to watch anything they please is called parenting.

Incorrect. Your first sentence is plain wrong and your second only begs the question. It's as if you're just trying to distract from the content of my comment with sheer semantic disingenuity. But maybe you missed my point so: every check shows distrust

Do you even have kids

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

Aerroon wrote: post #379
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #253

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There are zero knowledge proof systems that nobody would have a problem with because nobody ever knows who is accessing the content, only that they are allowed or not. Ironic to call people aware of this stupid.

Zero knowledge proofs won't be zero knowledge in practice when organizations the size of governments are involved. They want a backdoor on your devices too (or already have one).

But that's not related? Google already knows when you watch porn through Chrome on an Android, but it's not related to age verification.
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