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Sam Altman Slams Meta’s AI Talent Poaching: 'Missionaries Will Beat Mercenaries'

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Legally or illegally gained access too. Lest we forget Meta pirating books

And the legality of this may vary by jurisdiction. There’s a nonzero chance that they pay a few million in the US for stealing books but the EU or Canada decide the training itself was illegal.

Then the EU and canada just won't have any sovereign LLMs. They'll have to decide if they'd rather prop up some artificial monopoly or support (by not actively undermining) innovation.

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Honestly I’d be happy to work at any FAANG. Early FB in particular was great in terms of keeping up with friends. I’ve only interviewed with Meta once and failed during a final interview. Aside from online dating and defense I don’t have any moral qualms regarding employment. My dream in my younger days was to hit 500k tc and retire by 40. Too late now

> defense By defense do you mean like weapons development, or do you mean the entire DoD-and-related contractor system, including like tiny SIBR chasing companies researching things like, uh "Multi-Agent Debloating Environment to Increase Robustness in Applications" https://www.sbir.gov/awards/211845 Which was totally not named in a backronym-gymnastics way of remembering the lead researcher's last vacation destinati…

I'm trying to avoid anything primarily DoD related.

I guess I'd be ok with getting a job at Atlassian even if some DoD units use Jira.

I don't have anything against anyone who works on DOD projects, it's just not something I'm comfortable with

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Is this a button any one person should have their finger on?

Exactly. AGI is something that will significantly affect all of humanity. It should be treated like nuclear weapons.

>It should be treated like nuclear weapons.

Either you get it or you're screwed?

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Another funny possibly sad coincidence is that the licenses that made open source what it is will probably be absolutely useless going forward, because as recent precedent has shown, companies can train on what they have legally gained access to. On the other hand, AGPL continues to be the future of F/OSS.

The AGPL is a nonfree license that is virtually impossible to comply with. It’s an EULA trying to pretend it’s a license. You can’t have it both ways.

This is a strong claim, given it is listed as a free, copyleft license:

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html

Could you expand on why you think it's nonfree? Also, it's not that hard to comply with either...

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The AGPL is a nonfree license that is virtually impossible to comply with. It’s an EULA trying to pretend it’s a license. You can’t have it both ways.

This is a strong claim, given it is listed as a free, copyleft license: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html Could you expand on why you think it's nonfree? Also, it's not that hard to comply with either...

For some people "free" means "autonomy", and copyleft licences do a lot to restrict autonomy.

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Mercenaries over missionaries. Many employers want employees to act like cult members. But then when going gets tough, those are often the first laid off, and the least prepared for it. Employers, you can't have it both ways. As an employee don't get fooled.

100% agree. There is no reason for employees to be loyal to a company. LLM building is not some religious work. It’s machine learning on big data. Always do what is best for you because companies don’t act like loyal humans, they act like large organizations that aren’t always fair or rationale or logical in their decisions.

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Mercenaries over missionaries. Many employers want employees to act like cult members. But then when going gets tough, those are often the first laid off, and the least prepared for it. Employers, you can't have it both ways. As an employee don't get fooled.

We are not a company, we are a family

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition:

#6: Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.

#111: Treat people in your debt like family… exploit them.

#211: Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them.

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