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Post by SlowTao »

Fade_Dance wrote: post #305
layer8 wrote: post #151

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Given the Vision Pro, and the many billions spent on the now-defunct car project, I’m not so sure this is true.

I agree about project titan/cars. That was a behemoth of a failed experiment experiment. As for vision pro though and I guess even to a little extent the car exploration, it's sort of "safe" and derivative conceptually. Steve's experiments were often seemingly directly at odds with profitability. Like, one day he may have looked at the extensive lineup with the "Pro Max" etc, and made the call to cut back down to one…

Yep, the fundamental design of the iMac hasn't changed much since the iMac G5 in 2004. Yes, it is thinner, a new material and more refined but it is still a box on a stand with a screen.

They are either turbo sensible or doing silly things like Titan/Vision.

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Post by Greed »

ericmay wrote: post #423
ta1243 wrote: post #269

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Thinking about my previous iphones > Just to be clear your suggesting that your 6 year old iPhone runs a suit of social media apps No, I deleted them all - other than youtube (premium, no adverts). I used to have them 10 years ago though so a 10 year old phone would run them. > full graphics games like Minecraft (or whatever the hell people play these days I don’t know) I have a few games to pass the time in some cas…

You're thinking about how you use your phone, not how most people use their phone. The reason people continue to upgrade their phones isn't always mindless consumerism. For example, when you write: > Headphones? My 25 year old phone will do that. Bluetooth? I'm fairly sure my 3GS did that. Sadly modern phones don't do wired headphones any more, so have regressed on that metric. You're already showing me how you don't…

But are any of those things a strong enough motivator to warrant the average person paying several hundred dollars more for an incrementally improved device?

You haven't really made a strong argument for why a user might upgrade specifically and immediately for those features, besides that they exist. Certainly the average person is upgrading over time as components break or fail, but why is it that you think the average person is still upgrading regularly for any of the things you listed?

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Post by surgical_fire »

mpalmer wrote: post #500
surgical_fire wrote: post #490

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> Why on earth would you discourage someone from finding joy in their work? For the same reason I discourage people believing in Santa Claus or in the Easter Bunny Finding joy in their work is a cute idea. But it is cute and false, believing in it will lead to nothing but frustration and lower income.

I'm sure believing that helps you if that's been your own experience. But it's demonstrably possible, at least for people for are not you. Like, are you reading "find joy" as "find a job doing what you already love"? Those are different things. This affectation of weary cynicism is so easy and popular. I'm over it.

> Like, are you reading "find joy" as "find a job doing what you already love"?

Absolutely not.

Work with what you love, and you will never love anything again.

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Post by daveidol »

adeelk93 wrote: post #257
discostrings wrote: post #197

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Uber violates this. At least as of a few years ago, there was no way to get notifications about driver arrival without also getting special offer and Uber Eats spam notifications periodically. Not only was there no opt-in consent, there was no way to turn them off without disabling the status updates. It's particularly bad when apps with legitimate time-sensitive functionality do this. I denied the app the ability to…

Account > Settings > Communication > Marketing Preferences. Uncheck them all. A bit hidden, but it does work.

I had them all unchecked but still get the notifications in the Uber Eats app

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Post by eviks »

Aurornis wrote: post #440
earthtograndma wrote: post #152

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If I'm reading all this correctly, it sounds like Apple has a system that will automatically play unintended music at various times from the music library. The only way to prevent this is to completely wipe out the entire library. And the chief complaint is that there is an album in the library.

> If I'm reading all this correctly, it sounds like Apple has a system that will automatically play unintended music at various times from the music library. No, in this case the play command was coming from the attached device. Apple’s product was complying with the command in the only way it could, by playing the songs in the library.

Of course it's not the only way to comply. The more sensible default is to continue playing whatever's in your queue. So if you had nothing there, noting would play.

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Post by bhickey »

t8sr wrote: post #248

I have never said and rarely thought this before, but I really hope the person who came up with / approved this idea got fired for it. It’s rare that you see something so unbelievably stupid and destructive of the shared pool of trust, which Apple spent 30 years building, only for one self-interested PM to blow a chunk of it up for no gain. If the person who came up with this reads this site, I hope they see this com…

I assume that this was approved by the CMO or at very least at the VP level. Previously I was the eng TL for house ads at a big co. We would've run anytime vaguely controversial all the way up the chain.

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Post by leakycap »

Apple seems to have lost its way. I feel the only reason they still advertise Privacy is that they're stuck with it at this point, or they'd be another Samsung or Google.

I miss the world when Apple had a point of view and vision that served to move things forward, not just stocks/revenue up.

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Post by madhacker »

adeelk93 wrote: post #257
discostrings wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber violates this. At least as of a few years ago, there was no way to get notifications about driver arrival without also getting special offer and Uber Eats spam notifications periodically. Not only was there no opt-in consent, there was no way to turn them off without disabling the status updates. It's particularly bad when apps with legitimate time-sensitive functionality do this. I denied the app the ability to…

Account > Settings > Communication > Marketing Preferences. Uncheck them all. A bit hidden, but it does work.

can't find what you're talking about. Per ChatGPT, "In iOS, there is no universal path like Account > Settings > Communication > Marketing Preferences across the system. That type of menu usually appears within individual apps or websites, not in iPhone’s system-wide Settings."

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

jeffgreco wrote: post #519
kortilla wrote: post #477

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Mobile websites are often either non existent or work far worse than the app.

In the case of Uber, they actually have a very deeply developed webapp.

Thank you! You just saved me 700 MB of storage + whatever privacy violations the app was enabling.
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