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Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Post by chrisvalleybay »

tough wrote: post #234
ionwake wrote: post #30

Is it possible to sue this with Cursor? If so what is the name of the model? gemini-2.5-pro-preview ? edit> Its gemini-2.5-pro-preview-05-06 edit>Cursor syas it doesnt have "good support" et, but im not sure if this is a defualt message when it doesnt recognise a model? is this a big deal? should I wait until its officially supported by cursor? Just trying to save time here for everyone - anyone know the answer?

Cursor UI sucks, it tells me to use -auto mode- to be faster, but gemini 2.5 is way faster than any of the other free models, so just selecting that one is faster even if the UI says otherwise

Actually, I find the Cursor UX to be vastly superior to any of the others. I've tried Visual Studio with Copilot, Roo, Cline, Trae and Windsurf. Nothing gets close to the experience of Cursor right now, IMO.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Post by enneff »

jstummbillig wrote: post #357
saurik wrote: post #336

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I mean, didn't you just admit you are wrong? If we are talking 1-5 years out, that's not "current models".

Imagine sitting in a car, that is fast approaching a cliff, with no brakes, while the driver talks about how they have not been in any serious car accident so far. Technically correct. And yet, you would probably be at least be a little worried about that cliff and rather talk about that.

There’s a lot wrong with your analogy. I’m inclined to argue, but really it’s better to just disagree about the facts than try to invent hypothetical scenarios that we can disagree about.

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Post by lerp-io »

liefde wrote: post #533
jstummbillig wrote: post #314

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> no amount of prompting will get current models to approach abstraction and architecture the way a person does I find this sentiment increasingly worrisome. It's entirely clear that every last human will be beaten on code design in the upcoming years (I am not going to argue if it's 1 or 5 years away, who cares?) I wished people would just stop holding on to what amounts to nothing, and think and talk more about wha…

The tension between human creativity and emerging tools is not new. What is new is the speed. When we cling to the uniqueness of human abstraction, we may be protecting something sacred—or we may be resisting evolution. The fear that machines will surpass us in design, architecture, or even intuition is not just technical. It is existential. It touches our identity, our worth, our place in the unfolding story of inte…

you people need to stop glorifying it so much and focus on when and how to use it properly. it’s just another tool jeez.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Post by ArthurStacks »

realusername wrote: post #545
ArthurStacks wrote: post #512

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I run a software development company with dozens of staff across multiple countries. Gemini has us to the point where we can actually stop hiring for certain roles and staff have been informed they must make use of these tools or they are surplus to requirements. At the current rate of improvement I believe we will be operating on far less staff in 2 years time.

I'd be worried instead of happy in your case, it means your lunch is getting eaten as a company. Personally I'm in a software company where this new LLM wave didn't do much of a difference.

Not at all. We dont care whether the software is written by a machine or by a human. If the machine does it cheaper, to a better, more consistent standard, then its win for us.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Post by laborcontract »

esperent wrote: post #458
laborcontract wrote: post #271

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Update 2: I've been using this model in both aider and cline and I've haven't gotten a diff matching error yet, even with some pretty difficult substitutions across different places in multiple files. The overall feel of this model is nice. I don't have a formal benchmark but there's a notable improvement in code generation due to this alone. I've had gemini chug away on plans that have taken ~1 hour to implement. (~…

Have you been using the Gemini 2.5 pro "Experimental" or "3-25" models in Cline? I've been using both over the last week and got quite a few diff errors, maybe 1/10 of edit so that 92% tracks for me. Does this 2.5 pro "Preview" feel like an improvement if you had used the others?

Yep i’ve been using the old and new models in cline. I can’t tell any difference outside of the improvement with diffs, but that’s good enough for me.

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Post by hispanus »

ranyume wrote: post #11

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but every time I ask gemini 2.5 for code it outputs SO MANY comments. An exaggerated amount of comments. Sections comments, step comments, block comments, inline comments, all the gang.

I have had the same experience: overly commented code by default

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Post by hispanus »

herpdyderp wrote: post #22

I agree it's very good but the UI is still usually an unusable, scroll-jacking disaster. I've found it's best to let a chat sit for around a few minutes after it has finished printing the AI's output. Finding the `ms-code-block` element in dev tools and logging `$0.textContext` is reliable too.

It's amazing to see how they haven't implemented such a trivial feature as a sticky "copy code" button for code blocks. Frustrating to say the least.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview

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Post by chrisvalleybay »

ionwake wrote: post #190

Can someone tell me if windsurf is better than cursor? ( pref someone who has used both for a few days? )

Yes, I can. I am using Cursor extensively and have tried Visual Studio code with Roo, Cline, Copilot, Trae, Windsurf and Cursor. I believe Cursors UX to be vastly superior and I am getting the best results with Cursor + Gemini 2.5 Pro right now.

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Post by realusername »

ArthurStacks wrote: post #565
realusername wrote: post #545

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I'd be worried instead of happy in your case, it means your lunch is getting eaten as a company. Personally I'm in a software company where this new LLM wave didn't do much of a difference.

Not at all. We dont care whether the software is written by a machine or by a human. If the machine does it cheaper, to a better, more consistent standard, then its win for us.

You don't care but that's what the market is paying you for. You aren't just replacing developers, you are replacing yourself.

Cheaper organisations will be able to compete with you which couldn't before and will drive your revenue down.

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