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DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by watwut »

DrillShopper wrote: post #535
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #515

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> didn't prosecute GWB/Cheney/Rumsfeld for war crimes Not relevant to domestic crimes committed by non-Cabinet folk.

Yeah, but you'd think racking up hundreds of thousands of non-combatants deaths and flash frying Pakastani wedding parties remotely because of target misidentification would be high on the list of things to prosecute, if you're the Democrats. If they won't even investigate the wholesale murder of civilians by the command of the White House and CIA and prosecute those reaponsbile for murder and torture then what hope…

Americans dont care about Murders of foreign civilians. Not that they are all that special in that, foreigners clock less in general.

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Post by rockemsockem »

yibg wrote: post #454
rockemsockem wrote: post #262

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Good: 1. The account-level below that doesn't have access to certain stuff and just happened to have untraceable stuff 2. They just said "give me the highest level of access" and didn't investigate what that meant 3. Can't think of a good third atm Bad: 1. They want to do nefarious things untraceably 2, 3. I think 1. covers pretty much everything. Personally, if I'm put in charge of overhauling a system I don't want…

I honestly don't understand the defenses of these actions here. Forget about the nature of data we're talking about here. If I was an engineer working at say google, and I put in mechanisms to access a bunch of data and bypass both auth and audit, I'd get fired instantly.

If those mechanisms already existed and you requested and were granted access to them then there wouldn't be anything to comment on really? There would be no firing, nothing would happen.

I'm not defending anything, I'm trying very hard to see what the specific problem is here and all I see is "now things XYZ might happen" and I'm just thinking that I'd be far more interested in an article about XYZ actually happening than this "reporting" on "maybe things ABC happened and maybe things XYZ will happen".

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Post by garbagewoman »

DaSHacka wrote: post #553
e40 wrote: post #547

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Ah, yes, the "both sides" argument. Yes, the Biden and Trump2 administrations are just the same. Move along...

When it comes to pardons, I actually believe Biden was significantly worse in that regard.

How is that relevant?

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Post by grandempire »

zzrrt wrote: post #536
grandempire wrote: post #523

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> a straight-up script kiddie Why is the age such a talking point? An insight in startup culture is that the public underestimates young people, especially when it comes to business skills with objective results and tight feedback cycles. It just seems like now that HN is skewed older we no longer believe that?

> when it comes to business skills with objective results and tight feedback cycles Is the federal government a business or startup? Does chainsawing it have a tight-enough feedback cycle to get good results? I'm going to say No to both, but I don't have the time or expertise to try to prove it. It can be true, both that young people are great at startups and bad at the federal govt.

Financial auditing does.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

DrillShopper wrote: post #535
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #515

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> didn't prosecute GWB/Cheney/Rumsfeld for war crimes Not relevant to domestic crimes committed by non-Cabinet folk.

Yeah, but you'd think racking up hundreds of thousands of non-combatants deaths and flash frying Pakastani wedding parties remotely because of target misidentification would be high on the list of things to prosecute, if you're the Democrats. If they won't even investigate the wholesale murder of civilians by the command of the White House and CIA and prosecute those reaponsbile for murder and torture then what hope…

> you'd think racking up hundreds of thousands of non-combatants deaths and flash frying Pakastani wedding parties remotely because of target misidentification would be high on the list of things to prosecute, if you're the Democrats

A consistent mistake by the Democrats is thinking foreign policy will win votes. It doesn’t. We’re the centre of the empire and that makes us arrogant and self centred. You can’t win a national election based on war crimes.

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Post by grandempire »

throw16180339 wrote: post #557
grandempire wrote: post #521

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> cannot make any statue affecting the President, I didn’t say affecting - I said limiting the power of. A regulatory procedure the president is asked to follow is different than saying “we made this information off limits”. > President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office.

> That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office. Republicans didn't object to Trump's coup attempt, fraud convictions, past attempted rapes, or proven corruption. 70% of them believe that he won the 2020 election. There's no reason to believe that they'd impeach him for child rape unless she was the daughter of a prominent Republican. Trump would have the girl killed, send her parents to…

> past attempted rapes

You are spreading misinformation.

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Post by rtkwe »

DrillShopper wrote: post #512
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #473

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> They work for Trump so they'll never be held to account, even if a Democrat wins the next election Why? If Democrats take the House in the midterms, which looks more likely the longer Navarro and Musk have West Wing access, they can basically turn these folks' lives into a living hell of back-to-back hearings (and contempt charges down the road). And if Democrats win the next election, they'll presumably put someon…

When Biden was elected they didn't seriously crack down on them before outside of the one case at Justice that went nowhere. They also didn't prosecute GWB/Cheney/Rumsfeld for war crimes when they had the chance. This is a long standing policy of theirs.

I get the instinct and the reasoning behind it but it really has proven to just let the whole mess fester into the madness we're getting today.

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Post by zeckalpha »

grandempire wrote: post #403
zeckalpha wrote: post #370

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Would be a good trial of the GPL.

You only have to give GPL source to the people who you distribute software to. You can fork anything privately for yourself.

Distribution has a pretty low bar.

If your private fork is on GitHub, have you distributed it to GitHub?

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Post by DaSHacka »

garbagewoman wrote: post #563
DaSHacka wrote: post #553

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When it comes to pardons, I actually believe Biden was significantly worse in that regard.

How is that relevant?

Because the topic of pardons was brought up?

Read through a discussion chain before responding to an individual reply.

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Post by lucasRW »

op00to wrote: post #551
lucasRW wrote: post #486

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Yeah, like the APT that compromised O365 accounts from US gov entities a year or so ago, using residential proxies to go around Conditional Access Policies..., is now logging in straight from the Kremlin. :D

Is there a difference between a year ago and today? Is someone else sitting behind the resolute desk?

You didn't get the point.

The alleged "Russian login attempts" were blocked by CAPs.

Russian state-sponsored actors have showned in the past that they use residential relay boxes to get around that.

If you read between the lines of the whistleblower claims, a lot of stuff doesn't add up. I especially like the conclusion that a deathnote was left on his door BEFORE he blew the whistle, and that a drone was hovering over his house.

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