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Post by wcallahan »

vladmdgolam wrote: post #501
blueyes wrote: post #229

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One of the main advantages Anthropic currently has over Google is the tooling that comes with Claude Code. It may not generate better code, and it has a lower complexity ceiling, but it can automatically find and search files, and figure out how to fix a syntax error fast.

There are at least 10 projects currently aiming to recreate Claude Code, but for Gemini. For example, geminicodes.co by NotebookLM’s founding PM Raiza Martin

Tried Gemini Codes yesterday, as well as anon-kode and anon-codex. Gemini Codes is already broken and appears to be rather brittle (she disclosures as much), and the other two appear to still need some prompt improvements or someone adding vector embedding for them to be useful?

Perhaps someone can merge the best of Aider and codex/claude code now. Looking forward to it.

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Post by brailsafe »

zaphirplane wrote: post #352
fsndz wrote: post #205

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More and more people are coming to the realisation that Google is actually winning at the model level right now.

What’s with the Google cheer squad in this thread, usually it’s Google lost its way and is evil. Can’t be employees cause usually there is a disclaimer

It's good to be aware of the likelihood of astroturfing. Everytime there's a newthread like this for one of the companies, there's a suspicious amount of similar plausible praise in an otherwise (sometimes brutally) skeptical forum.

The best way to shift or create consensus is to make everyone think everyone else's opinion has already shifted, and that consensus is already there. Emperor's new clothes etc..

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Post by nickserv »

fsndz wrote: post #551
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #538

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I haven’t met a single person that uses Gemini. Companies are using Copilot and individuals are using ChatGPT. Also, why would I want Google to spy on my AI usage? They’re evil.

why is Google more evil than say OpenAI ?

They're not more evil, it's probably a tie. What they do have is considerably more reach and power. As a result they're much more dangerous.

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Post by Alifatisk »

latemedium wrote: post #495

There's an important difference between Gemini and Claude that I'm not sure how to quantify. I often use shell-connected LLMs (LLMs with a shell tool enabled) to take care of basic CSV munging / file-sorting tasks for me - I work in data science so there's a lot of this. When I ask Claude to do something, it carefully looks at all the directories and files before doing anything. Gemini, on the other hand, blindly jum…

Claude has always been the best at coding, no matter what all the benchmarks says, the people have spoken and the consensus is that Claude is the best.

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Post by elcritch »

Jensson wrote: post #479
freedomben wrote: post #462

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Geez, I'm not one of the people who think AI is going to wake up and wipe us out, but experiences like yours do give me pause. Right now the AI isn't in the drivers seat and can only assert itself through verbal expression, but I know it's only a matter of time. We already saw Cursor themselves get a taste of this. To be clear I'm not suggesting the AI is sentient and malicious - I don't believe that at all. I think…

> but the nature of these tools is they will surprise us Models used to do this much much more than now, so what it did doesn't surprise us. The nature of these tools is to copy what we have already written. It has seen many threads where developers argue and dig in, they try to train the AI not to do that but sometimes it still happens and then it just roleplays as the developer that refuses to listen to anything yo…

I almost fear more that we'll create Bender from Futurama than some superintelligent enlightened AGI. It'll probably happen after Grok AI gets snuck some beer into its core cluster or something absurd.

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Post by elcritch »

Asraelite wrote: post #407
int_19h wrote: post #403

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My experience has been exactly the opposite - Sonnet did fine on trivial tasks, but couldn't e.g. fix a bug end-to-end (from bug description in the tracker to implementing the fix and adding tests) properly because it couldn't understand how the relevant code worked, whereas Gemini would consistently figure out the root cause and write decent fix & tests. Perhaps this is down to specific tools and their prompts? In m…

> Gemini would consistently figure out the root cause and write decent fix & tests. I feel like you might be using it differently to me. I generally don't ask AI to find the cause of a bug, because it's quite bad at that. I use it to identify relevant parts of the code that could be involved in the bug, and then I come up with my own hypotheses for the cause. Then I use AI to help write tests to validate these hypoth…

I've found that I need to point it to the right bit of logs or test output and narrow its attention by selectively adding to it's context. Claude 3.7 at least works well this way. If you don't it'll fumble around. Gemini hasn't worked as well for me though.

I partly wonder if different peoples prompt styles will lead to better results with different models.

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Post by elcritch »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #153
dynm wrote: post #126

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The amount of text in books is surprisingly finite. My best estimate was that there are ~10¹³ tokens available in all books ( https://dynomight.net/scaling/#scaling-data ), which is less than frontier models are already being trained on. On the other hand, book tokens are probably much "better" than random internet tokens. Wikipedia for example seems to get much higher weight than other sources, and it's only ~3×10¹⁰…

We need more books! On it…

> And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Ecclesiastes 12:12 ;)

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Post by brookst »

syndeo wrote: post #503
brookst wrote: post #442

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Different Americans.

Lots of folks in tech have different opinions than you may expect. Many will either keep quiet or play along to keep the peace/team cohesion, but you really never know if they actually agree deep down. Their career, livelihoods, ability to support their families, etc. are ultimately on the line, so they'll pay lip service if they have to. Consider it part of the job at that point; personal beliefs are often left at t…

Not just tech. I spent some time on a cattle ranch (long story) and got to know some people pretty well. Quite a few confided interests and opinions they would never share at work, where the culture also has strong expectations of conformity.

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Post by mark_l_watson »

tough wrote: post #547
bayarearefugee wrote: post #278

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As another person that cancelled my Claude and switched to Gemini, I agree that Claude Code is very nice, but beyond some initial exploration I never felt comfortable using it for real work because Claude 3.7 is far too eager to overengineer half-baked solutions that extend far beyond what you asked it to do in the first place. Paying real API money for Claude to jump the gun on solutions invalidated the advantage of…

Open Codex (A codex fork) that supports gemini and openrouter providers https://github.com/ymichael/open-codex google models on cli are great.

+1 Open Codex is very nice. Yesterday I was using it with Gemini APIs and also using a local model using Ollama running on my laptop.

I added a very short chapter on setting this up (direct link to my book online): https://leanpub.com/ollama/read#using-the-open-codex-command...

This morning I tweaked my Open Codex config to also try gemma3:27b-it-qat - and Google’s olen source small is excellent: runs fast enough for a good dev experience, with very good functionality.

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Post by CoolCold »

hubraumhugo wrote: post #380

You can get your HN profile analyzed and roasted by it. It's pretty funny :) https://hn-wrapped.kadoa.com/ I'll add a selection for different models soon.

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