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Post by CharlieDigital »

VagabundoP wrote: post #469
javawizard wrote: post #396

That was painful to read. I had a very similar experience at Google about a year ago, and the worst part of it was that they did it 2 weeks before I was set to receive a 6-figure retention bonus for sticking around for 2 years after an acquisition. Several other members of my team got the boot at the same time. All of us had come in via that acquisition and were set to receive that bonus, and because of the layoffs,…

Did you sue? Because that's bullshit. The retention agreement should have included that clause anyway.

Agreed. If companies could do this, then they'd never pay out a retention rider.

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Post by Foreignborn »

cab11150904 wrote: post #542
wormlord wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are probably gonna get downvoted for lack of empathy but I completely agree. I feel bad for OP, but simultaneously if you are a technocrat who thinks they are somehow insulated or not part of the larger system, you need a reality check. > I was supposed to help with the developer keynote, ensuring things matched reality and were beautiful. Gone. Maybe I am too much of a jaded asshole but anyone who writes somethi…

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Out of curiosity, what happens to you when a less privileged person thinks the same thing about you?

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by abc-1 »

cab11150904 wrote: post #527

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> Pure, unadulterated, revolting whining from a spoiled tech child.

As opposed to you, the perfect human?

> blue collar jobs would take much longer to recover

So what are you saying? We should treat everyone like shit so everyone is equal? Or that only blue collar people have the right to complain?

How about we focus on raising the quality of living for everyone.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by Sonnigeszeug »

asadalt wrote: post #182
BlobberSnobber wrote: post #164

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Always someone with a horrible opinion to give in this hellsite

i have had to avoid hiring excellent candidate(s) from EU, just because they would become unflushable if it comes to that.

Thats just not true.

You don't sound like a big company ceo. If you have a good reason, even as a small company, and revenue / affordability is one, you can fire people.

You just need to be able to pay them for min. 3 month if thats your contract length and as a business owner you should know how to calculate.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by cab11150904 »

Foreignborn wrote: post #562
cab11150904 wrote: post #542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Out of curiosity, what happens to you when a less privileged person thinks the same thing about you?

Well as long as they're not a white man, the only 2 privileges that I was afforded on the way up, then they're welcome to try absolutely any punishment they see fit. They're surely welcome to hate me. It is their right.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by karaterobot »

Offboarding is when any illusion of your non-cog relationship to a company is belied. You're suddenly a virus that the immune response is trying to destroy. Your presence is a threat to the host that must be eliminated. On the one hand you wish companies would be a little more human about it: it's me, I'm not a criminal! On the other hand, they've got security controls that almost mandate a swift and pitiless execution.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by crazygringo »

acdha wrote: post #507
therealpygon wrote: post #500

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As it should be, but emotional people make emotional choices. The trusted and valued employee yesterday can turn on a dime and become malicious when they feel they have been wronged regardless of whether that is independently true. Their resulting actions can include anything from theft of IP to hand over to a competitor, to destruction of records or property. Worse, it is impossible to tell when someone will choose…

> The trusted and valued employee yesterday can turn on a dime and become malicious when they feel they have been wronged regardless of whether that is independently true. On the flip side, treating them like a crook seems more likely to inspire that kind of revenge instinct. Most people would understand removing privileged access immediately but giving them a dignified exit seems more likely to prevent problems.

It does, but if you've removed the damage they can do, then to the company it's preferable to have more people angry who can't do damage, than less people angry but some of them will do damage.

It's a sad reality. For some people a "dignified exit" won't do a single thing to lessen the rage they feel that they were wronged. It's a sad situation all around.

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Post by thor-rodrigues »

ajb wrote: post #322
ahtihn wrote: post #288

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> they have the option of putting them on 'gardening leave' during the notice period. This is extremely rare That must depend on the country. In Switzerland it's standard that employees don't work during the notice period when they're laid off.

Must do. I wonder if that's because of the wide access to weapons? Although I thought I'd heard that there still wasn't much gun violence in Switzerland.

I have the impression that (although I did not check for data beforehand to confirm my assumptions) that gun violence is very low in developed countries, with the USA being the outlier.

I believe the overall positive employer-employee relationship in Europe is much more of a product of legislature and cultural norms, than the threat of violence.

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Post by cab11150904 »

abc-1 wrote: post #563
cab11150904 wrote: post #527

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> Pure, unadulterated, revolting whining from a spoiled tech child. As opposed to you, the perfect human? > blue collar jobs would take much longer to recover So what are you saying? We should treat everyone like shit so everyone is equal? Or that only blue collar people have the right to complain? How about we focus on raising the quality of living for everyone.

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