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How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Post by mychael »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #391
mychael wrote: post #288

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Life-long classical liberal here. I don't know how you could arrive at these conclusions today.

I arrive at these conclusions the same way many of my classically liberal friends and fellow libertarians who support Trump do — by evaluating his actions through the lens of limited government, individual liberty, and fiscal restraint:

• DOGE and Fiscal Discipline: The goal of cutting $1 trillion from the federal budget, a major libertarian priority.

• Freedom of Speech: Consistently opposes online censorship. Appointed FCC commissioners like Ajit Pai and Brendan Carr, both strong defenders of free expression. Signed executive orders aimed at ending federal involvement in censorship.

• Deregulation: Slashed hundreds of federal regulations across multiple sectors, reducing government interference in markets and individual enterprise.

• Judicial Restraint: Appointed constitutionalist judges committed to limiting federal overreach and upholding individual rights.

• Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy: Opposed endless wars, pushed to bring troops home, and resisted entangling the U.S. in new conflicts.

• Ross Ulbricht: Publicly pledged to commute the sentence of the Silk Road founder, a major symbolic and substantive gesture for civil liberties and criminal justice reform.

How does one call themselves a classical liberal and not support this?

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Post by esalman »

facile3232 wrote: post #509
esalman wrote: post #485

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As far as I can see nobody is sticking by the F1 students who are being deported.

The deportations are just flashy cruelty to obscure everything else.

It's also cruelty to folks who have absolutely nothing to defend themselves with. They are doing this just to deter people from practicing right to assembly and protest.

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Post by aredox »

al_borland wrote: post #360
esalman wrote: post #184

It started with the Free Palestine protesters. Tesla protesters are next. Citizens will be shipped to El Salvador, non-citizens to where they came from.

What many of them are doing isn’t a legally protected form of protesting. Free Palestine protesters have been shutting down roads with their protests, this is illegal. Tesla protesters are vandalizing the vehicles of private citizens and burning down dealerships. This is also illegal, and due to its political goals, it seems to fit the textbook definition of terrorism. > the calculated use of violence (or the threat…

... Excuse me sir, could I interest you into what happened on January 6 of 2020?

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Post by croes »

seek wrote: post #530

> In a $10 billion lawsuit against 60 Minutes and its parent Paramount, Trump claims they selectively edited an interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris prior to the 2024 election. The TV news show last month published transcripts of the interview at the heart of the dispute, but Paramount is reportedly considering a settlement to avoid potentially damaging its chances of winning the administration’s approv…

Because that’s the claim of the lawsuit.

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Post by aredox »

TOMDM wrote: post #482
al_borland wrote: post #360

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What many of them are doing isn’t a legally protected form of protesting. Free Palestine protesters have been shutting down roads with their protests, this is illegal. Tesla protesters are vandalizing the vehicles of private citizens and burning down dealerships. This is also illegal, and due to its political goals, it seems to fit the textbook definition of terrorism. > the calculated use of violence (or the threat…

If someone is breaking the law, they should be charged with a crime. How are we at the point where that statement is a partisan issue?

Where are those who attempted a coup on Jan6 now?

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Post by mptest »

c0redump wrote: post #526
mptest wrote: post #236

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Because the agency that arrested her told us why she was arrested, and it was "supporting terrorism" ie writing an oped opposing israel's genocide, when they certainly have no hesitation to mention the crimes when they are there?? Oh and the agency already has a well documented history of arresting innocent people? Look up "ice collateral arrests" "autism awareness deportation" or "soccer coach deported for real madr…

Don’t bother trying to convince him. He’s relishing in the brutality against people he hates. He might try to intellectualize it (in the spirit of HN), but it’s coming from a place of pure emotion. Namely, anger, bitterness, resentment, insecurity, fear, and hatred.

Agreed, but I still see value in wasting my working hours making sure people here at least see the reality.

All I have to offer this forum while I'm a student is politics, which I do know better than at least some here. There is no technology I can really offer a valuable opinion on, more than the experts here.

It's my armchair activism to at least make sure that the left's point of view is not wholly absent on this forum of affluent, insulated tech bros. Plus, my job has a lot of down time, so there are worse ways I could spend it.

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Post by tstrimple »

coliveira wrote: post #271
nickpeterson wrote: post #218

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I don’t have a ton of faith in scotus right now, but I think they understand their only power is in whether people consider them independent. Allowing a third term for Trump would be accepting that they’re basically in charge of parking tickets.

I don't think the current Scotus cares in any way about looking independent. Quite the opposite.

They legalized bribery in plain sight for everyone to see for fucks sake. They stated that the president is above the law. It's insane to me that anyone thinks our institutions will save us.

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Post by decremental »

acidmath wrote: post #541
sapphicsnail wrote: post #313

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I have yet to see a free speech absolutist express concern about the government and media suppressing Gaza protestors or LGBTQ books being banned or anything else that affects the left. Doesn't seem very principled to me.

For books depicting sex acts, banning such books from public elementary and middle school libraries is reasonable. Is it not? Does there exist any example of an administration (federal or state) successfully prohibiting the private sale of an LGBTQ book?

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Post by spiderfarmer »

acidmath wrote: post #541
sapphicsnail wrote: post #313

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I have yet to see a free speech absolutist express concern about the government and media suppressing Gaza protestors or LGBTQ books being banned or anything else that affects the left. Doesn't seem very principled to me.

For books depicting sex acts, banning such books from public elementary and middle school libraries is reasonable. Is it not? Does there exist any example of an administration (federal or state) successfully prohibiting the private sale of an LGBTQ book?

Books with rainbows are getting banned under the same policy.

Rainbows!

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