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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by goosedragons »

nottorp wrote: post #458
sofixa wrote: post #409

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> The other makers build quality is horrendous Out of curiosity, what are you basing this on? From having spoken to people who manage IT fleets, and being the person regular people ask for advice for what device to get, with the occasional exception (which Apple also had plenty of, cf. the butterfly keyboard), you get what you pay for. A 1k-1.5k+ Asus/Dell/HP/Lenovo will get you decent and good build quality. The che…

Maybe if you run a fleet that's statistically true. If you're a regular person you can have incredible bad luck with specific models. Got two "2k" Lenovos at 4 year intervals. The first one worked fine but that model was known to have a weak hinge. Had to replace it three times. The second one had a known problem that some units simply stop working with the internal display and the only solution is replacing the moth…

I think price isn't the only thing. PC gaming/consumer laptops lean pretty heavily on price to performance ratios and I think they cut build quality to do it. Business lines like Thinkpad/EliteBook tend to offer worse performance dollar for dollar but they are built better.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by yesbabyyes »

jpk wrote: post #351
noisy_boy wrote: post #333

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The biggest issue Framework have right now is shipping. I can order a ThinkPad practically anywhere. No so with Framework - they are literally leaving money on the table from what I would assume their core segment: affluent tech savvy users trying to get off the planned obsolescence cycle.

I'm not sure I follow. Your complaint is that Framework only sells direct and not through retailers?

Tell me you're from the US without telling me you're from the US.

Jokes aside, I had to wait years for Framework to finally allow shipping via a friend in Berlin. I think they ship to Sweden now—they seemed to have an unfortunate misunderstanding that they needed to produce a Swedish keyboard and translate their website before shipping here, which of course is poppycocks.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

amluto wrote: post #284
rcarmo wrote: post #10

There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…

Spotlight is unbelievable bad, especially on iOS. If I type a substring of the name of an installed app, it should find it effectively instantly (say, within 1-2 frames of the input showing up). Instead, it finds it sometimes. On occasion I need to hit backspace (removing a letter that should match) to get it to find it. I struggle to imagine the software design that works so poorly.

See this same search issue in everything these days for what was a solved problem a decade ago, what “best practice” is causing this

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by dsego »

rcarmo wrote: post #10

There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…

I'm going to purchase a framework just because I value repairability. And honestly, before the m1 macbook I was using a t480s, and I'm okay with compromising on hardware, esp. having been burned with the 2016 butterfly macbook. Apart from the haptic touchpad I wouldn't miss much, other makers are finally ditching low resolution 16:9 screens and you can even find nice oleds. I'm mostly missing the polished software that's only available on macos (things like carbon copy cloner or pixelmator). But with my m1 having degraded battery and having to send it off for a week or two to the nearest service center just to get a new battery, the prospect of a repairable laptop like framework where I can just order a new battery and replace it myself is looking all the more enticing.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by dsego »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #372
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #92

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Also while Apples software quality has definitely diminished over the years, Windows in the same period has utterly CRATERED. Like I get along fine with 11 for my gaming PC but with every single update one feature or another becomes notably broken.

Windows is indeed an execrable shitshow. Every aspect of it assaults the user with incompetence or outright hostility. First is the endless badgering to log in, LOG IN, LOGGGG INNNNN with an asinine Microsoft account. If you can tolerate that and actually get the OS running, you're wading through a wonderland of UI regressions and defects. The default hiding and disabling of options is infuriating. Try showing conten…

I thought I was the only one having issues with HDMI sound, I usually unplug a few times before it switches the audio to the TV speakers.

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Post by genewitch »

andrepd wrote: post #519
whstl wrote: post #416

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Apple is addicted to growth. It is as big as it should be, but it acts like an early stage startup always trying to build some new flashy thing to attract the next customer.

It's not Apple, it's capitalism. "Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell", yet for Apple (or any corporation), it's not good enough to sell 100,000,000 phones. Next year you must sell 105,000,000. And the year after 112,000,000 (not even 110 or your growth is stagnating). So you get rid of removable batteries so customers have to toss their phones away more often, you gimp other feature, you spend more m…

In 2016 RedLetterMedia did a breakdown of the movies that year, like top and bottom ten grossing movies. They stated that the advertising budget was the same as the production budget, unless they had knowledge of a different number.

I don't doubt that after 2020 the advertising budgets far outstripped the production budgets - multiple times; I am curious if that trend continues now, now that production isn't hamstrung by covid restrictions.

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Post by carlosjobim »

debesyla wrote: post #413
carlosjobim wrote: post #238

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Why do you want to destroy computing for everybody else just to make a very small group of hackers pleased? Can't you be satisfied with Linux or Windows or BSD? Let normal people have at least one platform that is usable for them.

How is letting users to disable bloat a bad feature? For example, can you remove Chess from MacOS? Nope! Why? What I found on Reddit, it seems because it's integral part of MacOS somehow and I am a bad person for even asking, somehow.

"iMessage, Mail, and then iCloud if you want to sync it, and Photos"

Those are not bloat, those are core features of a computer for 99% of users who are not developers.

There already exists a platform which is unusable for normal people and great for developers, it's called Linux.

There already exists a platform which is great for corporate and hell for normal people, it's called Windows.

So why aren't we allowed to keep the only computing platform which is good for normal users?

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Post by timeon »

trinix912 wrote: post #478
kn8 wrote: post #44

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I don’t know if it’s just me, but i want more Gatekeeper, not less - help me stay safer. Or is it a security theatre? Malware producers can sign things just fine?

The more Gatekeeper, the more used people get to clicking OK without considering what it means. No amount of software can prevent the social engineering of an actual malware that tells the user to just click that OK button that they already have to do on a regular basis . Less is more here. It's why Windows tuned down their UAC after Vista.

> clicking OK without considering what it means.

Predefined value on current macOS's Gatekeeper is "move to Bin" instead of OK. Other option is Done - which cancels opening action. If you want to bypass that, you need to go to system settings > privacy & security and manually allow particular app there.

Who know what later updated will bring.

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Nextgrid wrote: post #548
microtonal wrote: post #390

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Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased I think the decline of software went hand-in-hand with the decline of the native indie Mac app. They still exist, but when I started with the Mac (2007), there was a very rich ecosystem of native Mac apps. Most stood head and shoulders above their Linux and Windows counterparts. Apple has nearly destroyed that ecosystem with:…

> 1Password tried SwiftUI for their Mac app 1Password had a beautiful native Mac app that works to this day. Even assuming SwiftUI is actually bad, why did they have to migrate at all? What was wrong with the existing app? I'm not disagreeing with the opinions on Apple software quality, but I think the 1Password case is more down to their taking of VC money and having to give (JS) devs some busywork to rebuild someth…

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Post by edwinjones »

thewebguyd wrote: post #38
rcarmo wrote: post #10

There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…

> Most of the other examples in the article also apply, but to be honest I've been using GNOME in parallel for years now and I consider it to be my "forever desktop" if PC hardware can ever match Apple Silicon (or, most likely, if I want something that is _just a computer_). I'm there as well. I've been really enjoying desktop Linux lately, but I can't go back to a non-Apple laptop at this point. There's just nothing…

Not quite what you're after but if you want a fanless option that runs full linux and doesn't use much battery, the new argon 40 CM5 laptop that's being built looks like it could be viable as long as you'd be happy with that much of a drop in performance and a few pi based niggles (No USB C video, only one pcie lane for the SSD, etc.)

https://liliputing.com/argon40-is-making-a-raspberry-pi-cm5-...

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