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Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by charlesabarnes »

robertlagrant wrote: post #547
triceratops wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> tech salaries have bloomed massively because there isn't a union I presume you support free markets, so I'm surprised that supply and demand never crossed your mind as the reason for high tech salaries. Professional athletes, actors, and screenwriters enjoy both high salaries and union protections.

> I'm surprised that supply and demand never crossed your mind as the reason for high tech salaries No need to be surprised - it more than crossed my mind. > Professional athletes, actors, and screenwriters enjoy both high salaries and union protections Well, screenwriters aren't in the same ballpark as the other two, but the highly paid athletes and actors are not having their wages negotiated by a union rep. They h…

Base pay is absolutely negotiated by sport union reps. It sets a quality of life standard for participants in their respective leagues

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Post by insane_dreamer »

WalterBright wrote: post #507
fatbird wrote: post #499

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Whether state-funded institutions and unions are more corrupt than private enterprise is an empirical question. Do you have empirical data to back this up?

Biden's $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/... I've never heard of a private company that inept and corrupt.

The Biden Admin didn't spend the money, it made the money __available to the States__ to fund proposals and contracts which the __States__ are responsible to manage.

The money is __allocated__, but it's not __spent__ until the States finish viable proposals, and with a completely new technology, that takes the States time.

> “State transportation agencies are the recipients of the money," ... “Nearly all of them had no experience deploying electric vehicle charging stations before this law was enacted.” ... the process — states have to submit plans to the Biden administration for approval, solicit bids on the work, and then award funds — has taken much of the first two years since the funding was approved.

> 17 states have not yet issued proposals

If anyone's at fault, it's the States.

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Post by berniedurfee »

Alupis wrote: post #554
Spooky23 wrote: post #545

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Colonial and post-colonial intervention. Control of the resources or territory wasn’t magically delivered to the people with equity. The colonial infrastructure of control was turned over to local friendly interests and their successors. (Through revolutions, coups, etc)

So what's stopping these countries today ?

| post-colonial intervention

Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by pgodzin »

ncr100 wrote: post #459

Awesome news. In my experience, Mismanagement, both in personnel and compensation, seems to be commonplace, as corporations seek to lower costs in response to our changing economy. Corporations looking to find an advantage may shortchange employees, overwork them, and not train managers but rather expect everybody to "just work well together", deflecting responsibility. Unionizing provides a relief valve where unions…

Is it not possible for "proper" management, rather than mismanagement, to result in downsizing a bloated org that over-hired, or lowering compensation in an employee-friendly hiring environment where a bunch of senior employees where laid off across the industry?

Both of those goals seek to lower costs, and goes counter to the interests of the union without being considered "mismanagement"

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Post by Alupis »

berniedurfee wrote: post #563
Alupis wrote: post #554

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what's stopping these countries today ?

| post-colonial intervention

I'll ask again. What is stopping these countries today?

Handwavy, vague "post-colonial" whatever isn't a reason, it's an excuse.

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Post by [deleted] »

golergka wrote: post #404
mtalantikite wrote: post #149

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Just a quick look, here's one that plays into the mainstream narrative that Hamas is hiding out in hospitals and schools and therefore it's understandable to bomb them: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/world/middleeast/airstrik...

That's just a fact, its not a matter of opinion or leaning.

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Post by aguaviva »

golergka wrote: post #404
mtalantikite wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a quick look, here's one that plays into the mainstream narrative that Hamas is hiding out in hospitals and schools and therefore it's understandable to bomb them: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/world/middleeast/airstrik...

That's just a fact, its not a matter of opinion or leaning.

It's a fact that they've been using hospitals for non-medical purposes to some extent.

However, it's also a fact that the Israeli government has been attempting to milk these finds for far more than they're worth, to an extent beyond embellishment and closer to outright fabrication (c.f. the alleged "command center" under al-Shifa, the Hamas "shift schedule" that was really just an ordinary Arabic calendar, and so on).

In short: yes Hamas is bad, and all that. But for its own part, the Israeli government never seems to miss an opportunity to leverage available circumstances to undermine its own credibility.

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Post by 20after4 »

umvi wrote: post #475
ncr100 wrote: post #459

Awesome news. In my experience, Mismanagement, both in personnel and compensation, seems to be commonplace, as corporations seek to lower costs in response to our changing economy. Corporations looking to find an advantage may shortchange employees, overwork them, and not train managers but rather expect everybody to "just work well together", deflecting responsibility. Unionizing provides a relief valve where unions…

If you read books from the early 1900s (Radium Girls, Rocket Boys, Seabiscuit), it's painfully obvious to see how incredibly exploitative industries can become (literally working people to death) without something like a union to check corporate greed against worker well-being. It's a fine balance though. Unions are organizations very similar to companies and can fall victim to the same sins as exploitative companies…

You say this as if it's something in the past, like the teamsters are not still controlled by the mafia.

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Post by walrushunter »

hungie wrote: post #51
gamepsys wrote: post #2

This could be a blueprint for how other tech departments unionize, but I suspect NYT is a unique case because of their politics. Can such a left wing cornerstone really afford to look anti-union inside their own house? This gives the workers more leverage than they would otherwise have in other companies. In any of the places I worked at in the past an anti-union consulting firm would have been called in to bust thin…

The NYT is not a left wing organization. It aligns, mostly, with a centrist Democrat politically. That position puts it pretty center right on the global scale. A left wing paper would typically be pretty anti capitalist, anti imperial, etc. which the NYT is definitely not. This is a global forum, it's important to remember that while the democrats in the US are called "the left" there, they really really are not a l…

The Democrats are most definitely leftwing. What a preposterous thing to claim. Just because other countries are withering away under socialism, doesn't suddenly make the Dems right wing.

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Post by slater »

walrushunter wrote: post #569
hungie wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NYT is not a left wing organization. It aligns, mostly, with a centrist Democrat politically. That position puts it pretty center right on the global scale. A left wing paper would typically be pretty anti capitalist, anti imperial, etc. which the NYT is definitely not. This is a global forum, it's important to remember that while the democrats in the US are called "the left" there, they really really are not a l…

The Democrats are most definitely leftwing. What a preposterous thing to claim. Just because other countries are withering away under socialism, doesn't suddenly make the Dems right wing.

No. By international political standards, the Democratic Party is at best centrist.

> Just because other countries are withering away under socialism

on the topic of preposterous things to claim...

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