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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by xslvrxslwt »

parker-3461 wrote: post #469
dmix wrote: post #164

> Featuring a new 48MP Fusion camera with a faster quad-pixel sensor that enables 4K120 fps video recording in Dolby Vision, these new Pro models achieve the highest resolution and frame-rate combination ever available on iPhone Every iPhone generation makes YouTube video quality slightly better as it’s what a lot of people use. That plus social media. Camera quality is quite amazing these days

Given that they had to upgrade to a new camera sensor to get faster readout speed, I’m wondering if they actually changed to a better sensor with improved pixel size and light sensitivity. I have read the official press release but it seems like there is no mentions of this. Might need to wait for the ifixit tear down in ~10 days. Edit 1: there has been some discussions that eventually the Sony IMX903 would be used,…

I'm actually so furious about this. No, they did not put the IMX903 (ik this because microns they showed are still 1.22, not 1.4 of the imx903) - even though it was supposed to be in the 15PM. It's the exact same sensor, all they changed is the processing algorithms & new sensor shift OIS (v2). Nothing that 15PM couldn't have been if they bothered 1% (even now they could push an 'OTA' to turn 15PM into 99.97% 16PM (if they were a real company that is)). IMX903 would remove a need to upgrade the sensor for the next 3-4 years (coming from me, who is already using a phone with a way better 1'' sensor (lyt-900)) but no - they choose to do the same crap scamsung and goolag are doing, albeit iPhone sensors are currently way better as the Scamsung/Goolag are still on the old dogshit HP1 and HP2s from 2020/1 tech (yes, GNK is new but it's the same crap, basically a mix of HP1 and 2) so it's still in the era where Sony was unparalleled (now both Samsung and Omni are killing Sony with their latest sensors). And it's crazy how only Chinese phones are pushing new techs, literally if they had better QC and ideas they'd be 5 years ahead of crapple, scamsung and goolag - like this they're barely better. If Apple had my LYT-900 it'd be a murder scene.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by ars »

Kirby64 wrote: post #71
minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

15 and 15 Pro both had USB-C. The 15 pro just has USB3 capable USB-C (15 regular was USB2 only). Seems like they're keeping that differentiation, which I suppose makes sense given the USB3 PHY is a considerable die cost.

Do people really transfer enough data over USB on a phone for it to matter?

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by makeitdouble »

davidy123 wrote: post #336

I've been an Android user since day 1, but am very impressed by some of these features. I'd love to have the half-click to focus feature and other dedicated camera button features, macro, a few other things that put this generation in a next category. I'd like to see them catch up and surpass all of Google's onboard AI features, and it looks like they're working on it. Being able to find a section of a video by a vag…

> I'd love to have the half-click to focus feature and other dedicated camera button features

That would be Sony's phones for you. They're great for raw photography, especially if you process it yourself from raw.

Downsides behind...it's a Sony. And they also don't have any interest in AI and advanced software features.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by rekoil »

minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

Titanium frame, better battery life, 120Hz display refresh rate, better camera, 5x optical zoom, LiDAR.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by raydev »

just_tubes wrote: post #500
raydev wrote: post #424

For fun, revisit the iPhone 6 announcement thread on HN[1], coincidentally posted 10 years ago today. I love going back to these to see how people responded. The more things change... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8292029

What a wonderful perspective. Feels like we're talking about the same topics.

The 16GB complaints brought back some traumas as an iOS dev. So many support issues arising from that. It was actually criminal Apple was still selling that as the base at the time, and iOS wasn't able to deal with restricted disk space very well either.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by naming_the_user »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #456
IgorPartola wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

> Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones I don't think iMessage is big anywhere outside the US (which appears to account for about 9% of iPhone users). I don't think a majority of global users even knows there are different colors.

Completely not a thing in the UK. The app is a portal for SMS based auth and that's it. Everyone uses WhatsApp or other social network based messengers.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by Zak »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I'm a technically sophisticated user, and I don't want a new phone. I would almost certainly like it less than my current four year old phone.

It would have a faster CPU, more RAM, and more storage, but it's rare I run into any of those limits. It would have a better camera than my current phone, but it would still be worse than my Olympus. It would have a bigger screen, but I wouldn't have a bigger hand and that would make it harder to use. It would have a bigger battery, but it would need a bigger battery. It wouldn't have a headphone jack, and I use mine. It might have an AI thing, but I don't want an AI thing.

For about a decade after the current era of smartphones launched, they weren't good enough to do all the things people wanted them to, so most people were eager to upgrade when possible. Now they are, and an upgrade usually brings more hassle than excitement.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by pwagland »

redbell wrote: post #520

You know what really caught my attention with the 16 Pro Max? The 6.9-inch display, with a resolution of 1320x2868 pixels [1]! However, I’m a bit skeptical about this choice. A 6.9-inch screen size is quite rare in the smartphone world [2]. Samsung tried something similar back in 2020 with its S20 Ultra (and Note 20 Ultra), only to revert to 6.8 inches with the S21 Ultra the following year—and they haven’t looked bac…

Apple do list the display resolution, at least on the [compare page](https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16-pr...)

2868-by-1320-pixel resolution at 460 ppi

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Post by j_timberlake »

paperplatter wrote: post #465
usaphp wrote: post #285

I love how ridiculous the scene to showcase Apple's Intelligence ability to tell you what bread the dog was. Instead of simply asking a women what breed her dog was - he had to open a camera app on his iPhone, ask a women a permission to take a photo of the dog, wait until the AI gives him an answer...

It's weird how they pick unrealistic use cases when there are real ones. Last week I saw a nice plant and wanted to buy the same one, so I used Google's image recognition feature.

"Is this big spider in my office friendly or deadly?" AI: It's a Wolf Spider. Probably.
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