I've been using Bitwarden for a few years. It seems to do everything I need, and is cross-platform.
I have a soft spot in my heart for `pass` (http://www.passwordstore.org/), but it's a pain to access it from my phone.
Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
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My biggest worry about passwords by Apple is that I have even less pull when they screw it up. Not that I have a lot of input in 1Password, of course, but I bet if I get loud enough on HN for long enough, I could get the attention of the CEO. Try that with Apple. As a long time user (sufferer) of Screen Time, I am acutely aware of how badly Apple can screw up software, and how long they can let it go unfixed. Tim Coo…
Can you expand more on the Screen Time issue?
I've had a bug where unpausing a particular app requires doing so 2+ times before I can access the app. The bug has persisted on multiple devices for multiple years and it makes for a pretty clunky user experience. That's one example that comes to mind for me.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#563Earlier quoted context omitted.
My biggest worry about passwords by Apple is that I have even less pull when they screw it up. Not that I have a lot of input in 1Password, of course, but I bet if I get loud enough on HN for long enough, I could get the attention of the CEO. Try that with Apple. As a long time user (sufferer) of Screen Time, I am acutely aware of how badly Apple can screw up software, and how long they can let it go unfixed. Tim Coo…
Keychain Access has been there since the beginning of OSX/macOS. It's quietly been storing email and wifi passwords this entire time. Many, before there was an alternative like 1Password, used the app to store other info within as well through secure notes. Passwords in iOS and Safari, along with Keychain sync in iCloud have expanded the keychain functionality over the years and it's been fine for ~25 years or so. I…
Keychain Access has not been "fine". It's had multiple unaddressed data loss bugs. For example, Keychain lost all passwords from all Keychains after the Catalina update[1] and this wasn't fixed in the next 3 Catalina minor updates. Multiple users reported the issue to Apple and the response was crickets. Even if you restored the passwords, it helpfully deleted them all again. I switched to 1Password and declared Keychain Access a lost cause. I don't think I'll be giving them a second chance here.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you expand more on the Screen Time issue?
I've had a bug where unpausing a particular app requires doing so 2+ times before I can access the app. The bug has persisted on multiple devices for multiple years and it makes for a pretty clunky user experience. That's one example that comes to mind for me.
I have this same issue. I've got to unpause the app multiple times, and wait for upwards of 15 to 30 seconds before the app actually unpauses.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#565Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you expand more on the Screen Time issue?
I've had a bug where unpausing a particular app requires doing so 2+ times before I can access the app. The bug has persisted on multiple devices for multiple years and it makes for a pretty clunky user experience. That's one example that comes to mind for me.
It happens so often for me, I just assumed it was a key feature of how Screen Time worked e.g. 1-click to unpause isn't really a deterrent, but what if unpausing took a random number of clicks to unpause - now that's a deterrent to not unpause.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#566Timely with how official support for the old 1Password 7 apps probably won’t be continued for too much longer, with 1Password pushing users over to the notably worse v8 apps. I’ll probably switch.
Right. 1Password 7 is the last one to have private vaults. After that dies, I have no reason to use 1Password over anything else. SSH? Yeah, need that for work - which absolutely bans storing those on the cloud.
I don't know where this falls on the "storing in the cloud" policy, but if you haven't seen it I really enjoyed KeePassXC's ssh agent to keep SSH keys off disk: https://keepassxc.org/docs/KeePassXC_UserGuide#_ssh_agent_in...
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
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Linux isn't even relevant in this context with it's <1% DWM install base. Android, yes you have a point, though a Mac and Android is a strange combination.
What's strange in it? I've been using macs and android phones for over a decade. And a lot of tech savvy people do the same. Macbooks have been a solid dev platform for a while, and do not really require any mobile platform preference.
Most of my dev team are Mac + Android users. The same is not true for data or product folks, who are mostly Mac + iPhone users.
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In what ways are desktop Windows boxes as closed as Apple? I would say there are many many things to fault Microsoft for, but closing down the OS has never been one of them (though that is gradually changing outside the EU, to be fair).
When using the terms “open” and “closed” with operating systems, one is traditionally talking open the source code. As such both Windows and MacOS are closed source. As for “opening up the OS” both are pretty gosh darned flexible and extensible wrt other features. However being based upon a BSD core, MacOS has had access to the Unix command line natively since forever. For Windows one used to have to rely on CgyWin b…
I don't think when someone is talking about a "closed device" they usually mean "closed source". I at least took it to refer to whether you can run whatever software you want on that device+OS, and how easy it is to do so.
I think Windows is up there with the open source OSs (Linux, BSDs, etc) on regular PCs are at the same end of "run anything you want from wherever you want it", iOS devices are at the other extreme of "only run things approved by Apple", Android devices are pretty closer to iOS because they make you jump through hoops and potentially lose access to various functionalities to install certain things or gain root access. Modern macOS, as far as I understand, is somewhere in the middle: you have to jump through quite a few hoops to install certain kinds of software, and a few aren't permitted at all I think (unsigned kernel modules?).
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
#569Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you expand more on the Screen Time issue?
I've had a bug where unpausing a particular app requires doing so 2+ times before I can access the app. The bug has persisted on multiple devices for multiple years and it makes for a pretty clunky user experience. That's one example that comes to mind for me.
It doesn't matter how many times you click it, there is a delay before it unpauses. If you click it once it will unpause after about 15-20 seconds. I'm not sure why it does this, it could be syncing with iCloud to also remove the restriction on your phone and iPad or it could be a feature that gives you a short pause to reflect on whether you really do want to continue wasting you life on hacker news.
Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024
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Ever used the virtual keyboard on treasurydirect.gov? I have resorted to DOM manipulation in DevTools so I can just paste my password in.
I think they finally changed this recently to allow you to paste in- I've resorted to the same workaround in the past though.
It's a real input field now!