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Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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...until they can find a way for it to be introduced without resistance.

Let's not pretend several decades of unscrupulous behavior is going to change now. Unless regulatory structures get implemented to brutally, exactingly, unflinchingly and relentlessly punish firms, they won't stop trying.

Punitively maul them into submission.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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I'll take a shot (not at MS, so I have no inside info). GenAI is hotter than anything else right now. As Satya publicly stated, "we made them dance" -- which shows how high-priority it is to maximize "AI innovation" at MS. If you disagree, think about how badly "Tay" blew up in MS's face and yet they still went ahead and bundled OpenAI LLM tech into all of Office365, just so they could have bragging rights about beat…

You are absolutely right. This AI race has been sort of funny to watch among the big tech incumbents. Google kept on launching faked demos and hurriedly released an openly race biased image generator all in a bid to catch up with OpenAI. Meanwhile Apple has been sort of lethargic. Recently annouced a deal with OpenAI to add GPT to their devices. They seem happy to continue playing catch up in this regard. I think Met…

> hurriedly released an openly race biased image generator all in a bid to catch up with OpenAI.

If you think the bias was due to timing constraints and not intentional then you are extremely naive.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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You are absolutely right. This AI race has been sort of funny to watch among the big tech incumbents. Google kept on launching faked demos and hurriedly released an openly race biased image generator all in a bid to catch up with OpenAI. Meanwhile Apple has been sort of lethargic. Recently annouced a deal with OpenAI to add GPT to their devices. They seem happy to continue playing catch up in this regard. I think Met…

> Meanwhile Apple has been sort of lethargic. If by lethargic you mean OCR of every single image on my computer so I can copy and paste text from anything, all running locally on the NPU on my M1 chip, then lethargic is A-OK. That's what Apple does: they ship useful features. We'll see tomorrow if they fall in the trap and run in this race to nowhere.

I tried to use AI on (intentionally?) badly formatted bank statements for a family member. Tried Apple, Google, various startups. Nothing could do it. The easy stuff is easy (raw OCR) but the hard stuff (layout recognition and reformatting) is not yet doable.

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What's so hard to get? Security and trust are lip service. Corporations lie to make a buck. How is it not obvious? Actions speak louder than words.

Untrue. Employees are asked to focus on sec. The org tells you that the company runs on trust. This is not lip service - it's not that internally they state otherwise, and it's certainly naive to think so. What happens is that, meanwhile, business is happening. People are making (small) decisions that adds up to big things, and leadership tends to trust those below to make the right calls and implement technology cor…

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Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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Yes, Onedrive started out as a pretty useful tool but has turned into a deceptive trojan that tries to force whatever growth metric MSFT managers are currently chasing through a combination of dark patterns (like hiding true file paths from view) and also simply refusing to operate in obviously useful ways which many users want and expect (like not having a built-in way to back up only specific sub-folders on differe…

There used to be no option to uninstall it - now there is. You will still get it reinstalled during a major OS update, but at least it can easily be removed. Before it was a chore to clean up. I would speculate there is even some way to prevent it from reinstalling during those major updates. That seems like the kind of capability they would build in because a huge Windows customer complained (i.e. realistically, the…

> I would speculate there is even some way to prevent it from reinstalling during those major updates.

The one positive about Windows is their need to cater to their enterprise IT fleet management base. So, as long as you have a Pro version of Windows, there is usually a way to lock down most things like this via Computer Policy settings. It's just not easy to discover nor time-efficient if you're managing a personal "fleet" of three PCs.

Re: Microsoft will switch off Recall by default after security backlash

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You are absolutely right. This AI race has been sort of funny to watch among the big tech incumbents. Google kept on launching faked demos and hurriedly released an openly race biased image generator all in a bid to catch up with OpenAI. Meanwhile Apple has been sort of lethargic. Recently annouced a deal with OpenAI to add GPT to their devices. They seem happy to continue playing catch up in this regard. I think Met…

> Meanwhile Apple has been sort of lethargic. If by lethargic you mean OCR of every single image on my computer so I can copy and paste text from anything, all running locally on the NPU on my M1 chip, then lethargic is A-OK. That's what Apple does: they ship useful features. We'll see tomorrow if they fall in the trap and run in this race to nowhere.

>OCR of every single image on my computer so I can copy and paste text from anything, all running locally on the NPU on my M1 chip

This functionality is baked into Windows since 10. But for some reason you need a third party program to expose it.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.media.ocr?...

https://github.com/TheJoeFin/Text-Grab

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